black sea yataghan

Jim McDougall · 11th July 2007, 01:11 AM

Outstanding Rick!!!
These photos are great, and as you have observed that these had variations. As I mentioned in my most recent post, there are a number of types from the same general regions, and it would be great to see illustrations of them. There are examples of these extremely recurved blades with sabre type hilts and vice versa.

As I mentioned I am hoping that we might consider the horned hilt in discussion. B.I.had mentioned in an earlier post on this thread that a distinguished member of the board of the Askeri Museum in Istanbul had completed a map detailing regional locations of many of the variations.
It would be most interesting to know details of that map!

All the best,
Jim

Tatyana Dianova · 6th August 2007, 09:44 PM

Today I've got a new book "Edged Weapons in the Collection of the Russian Museum of Ethnography" and found there a couple of interesting examples. The first one was aquired during the museum expedition to Tashkent, Uzbekistan in 1934 and is attributed to Kazakhs. The origin of other 2 is unknown.

ham · 6th August 2007, 10:59 PM

That is a beautifully photographed album but its content is severely lacking in terms of accuracy.
As to the "Black Sea Yatagan" per se, it is interesting that these weapons migrated about as they did, however this should not be taken as an indicator of origin.

Ham

Yannis · 13th September 2007, 06:59 AM

More on this legend sword. This photo shows the Pontian ancestors of a Greek family, around 1900. Look the hilt

Mark · 13th September 2007, 01:44 PM

You can definitely see the curve of the blade and the pudgey scabbard, as well.

6th August 2007, 09:44 PM	#2
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 736	Today I've got a new book "Edged Weapons in the Collection of the Russian Museum of Ethnography" and found there a couple of interesting examples. The first one was aquired during the museum expedition to Tashkent, Uzbekistan in 1934 and is attributed to Kazakhs. The origin of other 2 is unknown. Attached Images

13th September 2007, 06:59 AM	#4
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	More on this legend sword. This photo shows the Pontian ancestors of a Greek family, around 1900. Look the hilt Attached Images

11th July 2007, 01:11 AM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,278	Outstanding Rick!!! These photos are great, and as you have observed that these had variations. As I mentioned in my most recent post, there are a number of types from the same general regions, and it would be great to see illustrations of them. There are examples of these extremely recurved blades with sabre type hilts and vice versa. As I mentioned I am hoping that we might consider the horned hilt in discussion. B.I.had mentioned in an earlier post on this thread that a distinguished member of the board of the Askeri Museum in Istanbul had completed a map detailing regional locations of many of the variations. It would be most interesting to know details of that map! All the best, Jim

6th August 2007, 10:59 PM	#3
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	That is a beautifully photographed album but its content is severely lacking in terms of accuracy. As to the "Black Sea Yatagan" per se, it is interesting that these weapons migrated about as they did, however this should not be taken as an indicator of origin. Ham

13th September 2007, 01:44 PM	#5
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	You can definitely see the curve of the blade and the pudgey scabbard, as well.