Where does this blade come from?

Jean · 26th July 2022, 02:09 PM

I am not convinced that it is a Melayu dapur. Anyway you were lucky that your proposed sarong did not fit as it was not a good match IMO

milandro · 26th July 2022, 02:18 PM

Thank you again jean, I will still appreciate then some indication to what the community thinks this kind of blade is and what kind of sarong would fit.
A friend of mine suggested that I use a sarong that I have and which, in his opinion, would d fit this blade better. The hilt (tinted bone ) may or may not fit the combination.

Jean · 26th July 2022, 06:05 PM

What is the blade length? The peculiar features of your blade are the kruwingan (the 3 long grooves), the curved ganja, the deep pejetan, the odd kembang kacang, and the indistinct pamor pattern.
The proposed sarong is in East Sumatra/ Malaysian style which is more suitable for a Bugis style blade.

milandro · 26th July 2022, 06:29 PM

29,5cm

I hope to be able to properly find a suitable “ dress” to this kris or I would have to make do with what is available to me.

You may have seen my recent thread on another blade. Finding “ naked” blades is not unusual but then the problem of finding suitable attributes starts

kai · 27th July 2022, 07:10 AM

Thanks for the additional pics & info!

Close-ups of the base of the blade would be great, too!

Regards,
Kai

milandro · 27th July 2022, 04:06 PM

this blade, unlike the other one, is mounted with a hilt en selut , so if you don’t mind, I won’t take them apart to avoid the fuss.

I shot two pictures which, I hope will give sufficient food for thought anyway

I have made the color lighter for the purpose of observation, but this is not the regular appearance , although it shows some differences in colors of the metal which I wouldn’t necessarily call pamor

I have aso found the outlined template which I sent the maker of the sarong to make the warangka fitting, the numbers refer to mm size in that particular area

milandro · 28th July 2022, 11:39 AM

I have asked a collector’s friend in Austria who asked a friend in Malaysia , according to this local person the blade in question is certainly Sumatran (as two people get 3 opinions

) , perhaps South Sumatran. He suggested a different Selut-Pendokock but in his opinion the dress I had made was better than the other one I proposed above.

I have to say that this field leaves me often puzzled with the co-existance of two many opinions and possibilities

26th July 2022, 02:18 PM	#2
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 487	Thank you again jean, I will still appreciate then some indication to what the community thinks this kind of blade is and what kind of sarong would fit. A friend of mine suggested that I use a sarong that I have and which, in his opinion, would d fit this blade better. The hilt (tinted bone ) may or may not fit the combination. Attached Images

27th July 2022, 04:06 PM	#6
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 487	this blade, unlike the other one, is mounted with a hilt en selut , so if you don’t mind, I won’t take them apart to avoid the fuss. I shot two pictures which, I hope will give sufficient food for thought anyway I have made the color lighter for the purpose of observation, but this is not the regular appearance , although it shows some differences in colors of the metal which I wouldn’t necessarily call pamor I have aso found the outlined template which I sent the maker of the sarong to make the warangka fitting, the numbers refer to mm size in that particular area Attached Images Last edited by milandro; 27th July 2022 at 05:12 PM. Reason: addition

26th July 2022, 02:09 PM	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I am not convinced that it is a Melayu dapur. Anyway you were lucky that your proposed sarong did not fit as it was not a good match IMO

26th July 2022, 06:05 PM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	What is the blade length? The peculiar features of your blade are the kruwingan (the 3 long grooves), the curved ganja, the deep pejetan, the odd kembang kacang, and the indistinct pamor pattern. The proposed sarong is in East Sumatra/ Malaysian style which is more suitable for a Bugis style blade.

26th July 2022, 06:29 PM	#4
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 487	29,5cm I hope to be able to properly find a suitable “ dress” to this kris or I would have to make do with what is available to me. You may have seen my recent thread on another blade. Finding “ naked” blades is not unusual but then the problem of finding suitable attributes starts

27th July 2022, 07:10 AM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Thanks for the additional pics & info! Close-ups of the base of the blade would be great, too! Regards, Kai

28th July 2022, 11:39 AM	#7
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 487	I have asked a collector’s friend in Austria who asked a friend in Malaysia , according to this local person the blade in question is certainly Sumatran (as two people get 3 opinions ) , perhaps South Sumatran. He suggested a different Selut-Pendokock but in his opinion the dress I had made was better than the other one I proposed above. I have to say that this field leaves me often puzzled with the co-existance of two many opinions and possibilities