Where does this blade come from?

David · 14th February 2022, 01:38 PM

I agree with what Alan said about trying to judge this keris before it is properly cleaned and stained. I suggest you post more photos once you get the blade back after Warangan treatment.
The hilt that you show is very nice, made of select wood. But I am also having trouble placing this as definitely being a Javanese blade. Hopefully we can tell more after warangan.

milandro · 14th February 2022, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I agree with what Alan said about trying to judge this keris before it is properly cleaned and stained. I suggest you post more photos once you get the blade back after Warangan treatment.
The hilt that you show is very nice, made of select wood. But I am also having trouble placing this as definitely being a Javanese blade. Hopefully we can tell more after warangan.

Thank you, I will certainly come back after the blade gets back to me (perhaps even earlier if the expert is sending me any pictures, he usually does, he is very very nice showing videos of the process too).

I would actually be even more thrilled to discover that this blade isn’t Javanese that if it would be, because really most krisses here are Javanese then at quite a distance you find Balinese and even scarcer Buginese. The Palembang kris that I have acquired is pretty rare (at least these days) here in the NL.

milandro · 18th February 2022, 03:08 PM

Well the blade has been washed and although it is not Keleng doesn’t display a great deal op pamor, according to the expert washer this is rather typical of old baldes and perhaps even of Malay blades.

Meanwhile, since this balde came with the wrong hilt and no sarong , I bought the most correct ones that I could find through a Javanese agent , he told me that they are not easy to find there at all and I know it is next to impossible where I live in the NL.

I will get back to you with more images , first of the blade and then, of the finished Keris once all the parts will arrive

Jean · 18th February 2022, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milandro

Well the blade has been washed and although it is not Keleng doesn’t display a great deal of pamor, according to the expert washer this is rather typical of old blades and perhaps even of Malay blades.

Meanwhile, since this blade came with the wrong hilt and no sarong , I bought the most correct ones that I could find through a Javanese agent , he told me that they are not easy to find there at all and I know it is next to impossible where I live in the NL.

I will get back to you with more images , first of the blade and then, of the finished Keris once all the parts will arrive

Hello Milandro,
I am not too surprised by the cleaning results, is the ganja looking similar to the blade? Which "more correct" sarong & hilt did you find?
Regards

milandro · 18th February 2022, 03:44 PM

Yes the Ganja is similar to the blade (I will add a picture but it is a rather low res image, ik will make better ones next week when the baldes I have commissioned to be washed will finally get back to me).

I bought the most correct (not more but most, probably there are more correct ones but I couldn’t find them so I didn't buy them) that I could find, I was offered a choice of two, one very similar to my Palembang keris and this other more Flashy one , this one was “correct” for this blade, at least according to the advise of the seller and of a friend who advises me in these kind of things.

We shall see what happens, the proces of ordering stuff like this at a distance without seeing the end product is rather unnerving, also the fitting of the balde will relay on some uncertainty even if I will take pictures and add measurements

Jean · 18th February 2022, 05:58 PM

Thank you Milandro, the blade does not look bad even if the pamor pattern is not much contrasted.
So you have selected a new Sumatrese style dress, it may be a bit difficult to match the curved ganja with the sarong but hopefully it will look OK.
Regards

milandro · 25th July 2022, 12:43 PM

Let me get back to this

In the end I did go for another sarong ( and also a different hilt ) since the one that was shown about was too short for the balde.

I may put it in another Sarong bu this is not the object of my returning here to this thread.

Would someone care to comment about the Dapur? Could this be a form megantoro ?

18th February 2022, 03:08 PM	#3
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 487	an update Well the blade has been washed and although it is not Keleng doesn’t display a great deal op pamor, according to the expert washer this is rather typical of old baldes and perhaps even of Malay blades. Meanwhile, since this balde came with the wrong hilt and no sarong , I bought the most correct ones that I could find through a Javanese agent , he told me that they are not easy to find there at all and I know it is next to impossible where I live in the NL. I will get back to you with more images , first of the blade and then, of the finished Keris once all the parts will arrive

18th February 2022, 03:44 PM	#5
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 487	Yes the Ganja is similar to the blade (I will add a picture but it is a rather low res image, ik will make better ones next week when the baldes I have commissioned to be washed will finally get back to me). I bought the most correct (not more but most, probably there are more correct ones but I couldn’t find them so I didn't buy them) that I could find, I was offered a choice of two, one very similar to my Palembang keris and this other more Flashy one , this one was “correct” for this blade, at least according to the advise of the seller and of a friend who advises me in these kind of things. We shall see what happens, the proces of ordering stuff like this at a distance without seeing the end product is rather unnerving, also the fitting of the balde will relay on some uncertainty even if I will take pictures and add measurements Attached Images

25th July 2022, 12:43 PM	#7
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 487	Let me get back to this In the end I did go for another sarong ( and also a different hilt ) since the one that was shown about was too short for the balde. I may put it in another Sarong bu this is not the object of my returning here to this thread. Would someone care to comment about the Dapur? Could this be a form megantoro ? Last edited by milandro; 26th July 2022 at 09:19 AM.

14th February 2022, 01:38 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,209	I agree with what Alan said about trying to judge this keris before it is properly cleaned and stained. I suggest you post more photos once you get the blade back after Warangan treatment. The hilt that you show is very nice, made of select wood. But I am also having trouble placing this as definitely being a Javanese blade. Hopefully we can tell more after warangan.

18th February 2022, 05:58 PM	#6
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Thank you Milandro, the blade does not look bad even if the pamor pattern is not much contrasted. So you have selected a new Sumatrese style dress, it may be a bit difficult to match the curved ganja with the sarong but hopefully it will look OK. Regards