Broad sword without apple, please help with attribution

Elmereya · 21st July 2022, 06:28 PM

good afternoon.
I want to thank everyone who expressed their opinion in this old topic.
Based on the material that I showed then, in general, the item was assessed exactly as it looks in the photos that were shown, adequately seen ..

Elmereya · 21st July 2022, 06:52 PM

I want to share in the continuation of this topic, the result of what eventually turned out after clearing, the surface has rather deep traces of damage and therefore it is rather difficult to choose the right angle of illumination, but in my opinion if you look closely you can see the remains of old letters, there are four such places,

Elmereya · 21st July 2022, 07:08 PM

the remnants of a long inscription are visible, the central part of which is specially damaged.

Elmereya · 21st July 2022, 07:22 PM

and I want to show another crosshair, judging by the remnants of what is visible in the photo, it was probably clad in a notch, with floral ornaments, in the photo there may be remnants of the stigma at the base of the blade,

Elmereya · 21st July 2022, 08:22 PM

visually, while it looks like this, the pommel disc is selected, the total weight of the sword with the pommel is 1.77 kg, the disc weighs 250 gr

Elmereya · 21st July 2022, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmereya

visually, while it looks like this, the pommel disc is selected, the total weight of the sword with the pommel is 1.77 kg, the disc weighs 250 gr

Onega region.
with respekt.

Tordenskiold1721 · 22nd July 2022, 09:37 AM

Your sword could very well be original. When keeping in mind that rust over centuries don't always look the same when taking metal surgical science into account. An item picked up from a river that has been encrusted in clay, or rusted in dirt were density, temperature and humidity has a lot to say on how old steel and iron corrodes and looks after 100 or over 1000 years.

Unfortunately this forum seems to have a "gang up" approach if one member out of the blue suggest "copy" based on nothing. Yes its harsh words but fact.

You have some very knowable members here but also "Trolls" that is not being moderated. My apology for speaking factual truth. But the truth matter.

Your sword is worth more research and you can have a test taken of the metal and have it dated.

21st July 2022, 06:52 PM	#2
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	I want to share in the continuation of this topic, the result of what eventually turned out after clearing, the surface has rather deep traces of damage and therefore it is rather difficult to choose the right angle of illumination, but in my opinion if you look closely you can see the remains of old letters, there are four such places, Attached Images

21st July 2022, 07:08 PM	#3
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	the remnants of a long inscription are visible, the central part of which is specially damaged. Attached Images

21st July 2022, 07:22 PM	#4
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	and I want to show another crosshair, judging by the remnants of what is visible in the photo, it was probably clad in a notch, with floral ornaments, in the photo there may be remnants of the stigma at the base of the blade, Attached Images

21st July 2022, 08:22 PM	#5
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	visually, while it looks like this, the pommel disc is selected, the total weight of the sword with the pommel is 1.77 kg, the disc weighs 250 gr Attached Images

21st July 2022, 06:28 PM	#1
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	good afternoon. I want to thank everyone who expressed their opinion in this old topic. Based on the material that I showed then, in general, the item was assessed exactly as it looks in the photos that were shown, adequately seen ..

22nd July 2022, 09:37 AM	#7
Tordenskiold1721 Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 71	Your sword could very well be original. When keeping in mind that rust over centuries don't always look the same when taking metal surgical science into account. An item picked up from a river that has been encrusted in clay, or rusted in dirt were density, temperature and humidity has a lot to say on how old steel and iron corrodes and looks after 100 or over 1000 years. Unfortunately this forum seems to have a "gang up" approach if one member out of the blue suggest "copy" based on nothing. Yes its harsh words but fact. You have some very knowable members here but also "Trolls" that is not being moderated. My apology for speaking factual truth. But the truth matter. Your sword is worth more research and you can have a test taken of the metal and have it dated.