Where is this sheat from?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by BluErf

Nice blade! It deserves a proper dress. Try to get one commissioned in N. Malaysia!

Hallo Kai Wee, do you think that the dress which coming with the blade isn't a proper dress as well?
And what you think about the Coteng hilt?

[David]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hallo Kai Wee, do you think that the dress which coming with the blade isn't a proper dress as well?
And what you think about the Coteng hilt?

Not Kai Wee of course but i would say that the sheath that came with this most certainly is not correct and that the pendokok also needs replacing as it is the wrong form and too large for the hilt.
Hopefully when you recieve this you can post some better photos of the hilt and blade. The Coteng hilt appears authentic and of some age (whatever that means ), but the photos are really poor and making any real assessments here is difficult.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

Not Kai Wee of course but i would say that the sheath that came with this most certainly is not correct and that the pendokok also needs replacing as it is the wrong form and too large for the hilt.
Hopefully when you recieve this you can post some better photos of the hilt and blade. The Coteng hilt appears authentic and of some age (whatever that means ), but the photos are really poor and making any real assessments here is difficult.

Every comment is welcome! That the pendokok isn't the correct form is clearly to seen. But you are right, let us wait until I have received the keris and I can take some pictures from the hilt and also pictures how the blade fit inside the sheath. But I am hopeful that all parts are with good age and to my eyes it seems that all parts are from Peninsula.

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hallo Kai Wee, do you think that the dress which coming with the blade isn't a proper dress as well?
And what you think about the Coteng hilt?

The dress is not appropriate for the hilt or blade.. The blade looks Pattani to me.. a nice blade indeed, (a pity I couldn't get it myself). The blade deserves new fittings in classic Pattani form. A 'tebeng' sheath with a Pekaka hilt would look appropriate. The hilt ring can be reused with the new hilt. The nice Coteng hilt can sit by itself on a hilt stand, if there's nothing matching for it.. The Malay Bugis sheath, you could try with your Malay Bugis (Terengganu) blade.. the one with the broken kembang kacang.. (just a suggestion).

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

The dress is not appropriate for the hilt or blade.. The blade looks Pattani to me.. a nice blade indeed, (a pity I couldn't get it myself). The blade deserves new fittings in classic Pattani form. A 'tebeng' sheath with a Pekaka hilt would look appropriate. The hilt ring can be reused with the new hilt. The nice Coteng hilt can sit by itself on a hilt stand, if there's nothing matching for it.. The Malay Bugis sheath, you could try with your Malay Bugis (Terengganu) blade.. the one with the broken kembang kacang.. (just a suggestion).

Alam, thank you very much for your comment. Blade look Pattani to me also but I have thought that the dress (sheath) is Pattani also. Please can show me a example of a tebeng sheath?
The Coteng hilt I want to use together with the Malay Bugis blade (the one with the broken kembang kacang) with my Coteng sheath from #3 in this thread. Do you think that this is matching?
Thank you again and best regards,

Detlef

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by Sajen

.. Please can show me a example of a tebeng sheath?
The Coteng hilt I want to use together with the Malay Bugis blade (the one with the broken kembang kacang) with my Coteng sheath from #3 in this thread. Do you think that this is matching?
Thank you again and best regards,

Detlef

Example of a 'tebeng' sheath form..

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=99490

The Coteng hilt is not matching with the Malay Bugis blade..
If possible, try to get a 'chenok' type blade.. see attached linked pic.

(Paul De Souza's example)..
Hope it helps..

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Example of a 'tebeng' sheath form..

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=99490

The Coteng hilt is not matching with the Malay Bugis blade..
If possible, try to get a 'chenok' type blade.. see attached linked pic.

(Paul De Souza's example)..
Hope it helps..

Puhhhhhhhh, the Malay keris world is very confusing for me!
Special to to differentiate between the Bugis-style sampirs is very very difficult for me, maybe I start a own thread for this since I think that I am not the only confused member.
The blade with the broken kembang kacang coming with a other Malay sheath. But it's apparent that they don't belong together since the blade is to strong/thick for the sampir. I think that this Sampir is a Terengganu style sampir. See pictures.

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by Sajen

.. The blade with the broken kembang kacang coming with a other Malay sheath. But it's apparent that they don't belong together since the blade is to strong/thick for the sampir. I think that this Sampir is a Terengganu style sampir. See pictures.

Yes, this is a nice Terengganu style sampir, with a missing 'buntut', sheath bottom end-piece. This sheath is also suitable for the blade with the broken kembang kacang (belalai gajah).. just need a hilt and a hilt ring.. See sample here, ((link ))

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Yes, this is a nice Terengganu style sampir, with a missing 'buntut', sheath bottom end-piece. This sheath is also suitable for the blade with the broken kembang kacang (belalai gajah).. just need a hilt and a hilt ring.. See sample here, ((link ))

Hello Alam, I am a little bit pacified since it seems that I have learned here already. Thank you for the nice example you have showed.