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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Today, 06:16 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Gustav, the center front panel is a slorok, it is...

Gustav, the center front panel is a slorok, it is a separate part to the body of the pendok, the open end of the pendok can be made flat, or it can be made curved, this one has been made flat.

In...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Today, 05:01 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Rick, yes, burl teak (jati gembol) Gustav,...

Rick, yes, burl teak (jati gembol)

Gustav, it is a very easy job to fit just about any pendok to just about any wrongko.

Kino, this is a very nice blade, but it is not the nature of the blade...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Today, 04:55 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Agreed Gustav, the overall impression is as you...

Agreed Gustav, the overall impression is as you state, however I cannot see sufficient detail in the photo to let me identify the grain orientation.

The little roundish thing in the sorsoran does...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 09:47 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
In what I can see, this pamor looks like the...

In what I can see, this pamor looks like the remnants of a pamor miring, but i cannot guess what it might have been made as from these photos, I alsi cannot name the pamor in the sorsoran from...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 09:34 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
It was kemalo, red lacquer, in a Central Javanese...

It was kemalo, red lacquer, in a Central Javanese palace hierarchy this red lacquer was & is the prerogative of a bupati (regent, district governor, or a member of the royal family).

Kemalo is...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th May 2024, 09:47 PM
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Views: 591
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Tilam upih is keris blade form, or "dhapur", it...

Tilam upih is keris blade form, or "dhapur", it is a simple form, this keris is not tilam upih.

The blade is quite old, it is very likely before 1800 --- & I'm being very conservative here.

The...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th May 2024, 09:17 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes David, all true. However, if we were to...

Yes David, all true.

However, if we were to remove all dress items from this blade, what classification do you believe most experienced students of the keris would give it?

By "classification"...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th May 2024, 12:25 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
It is interesting the way these are showing up. I...

It is interesting the way these are showing up. I have only ever had one in my hands & had never seen another.

Now, measure that against how many keris I have had possession of & have seen. By...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th May 2024, 09:15 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
and the younger generations have become taller

and the younger generations have become taller
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th May 2024, 11:47 PM
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Views: 591
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Madura ladrang. Pamor is the same on both...

Madura ladrang.

Pamor is the same on both sides, just more worn on one side than the other. The side with less prolific contrasting material probably started as thinner layer of pamor in the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th May 2024, 11:43 PM
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Views: 2,324
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thanks GIO.

Thanks GIO.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th May 2024, 01:45 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 943
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Not any more Detlef, not any more.

Not any more Detlef, not any more.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th May 2024, 11:21 PM
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Views: 1,915
Posted By A. G. Maisey
It is an older Madura keris, & as such I feel...

It is an older Madura keris, & as such I feel that if we want to classify it as ron variation, we really should stick with the designation of Bulu Ayam.

However, I can't make my mind up if this is...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th May 2024, 09:48 PM
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Views: 12,958
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes, I think so.

Yes, I think so.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th May 2024, 12:33 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 6,237
Posted By A. G. Maisey
As an example:- "--- hilt figures seem to...

As an example:-

"--- hilt figures seem to vary in accordance with the type of people who were regarded as figures of power when the sajen was made ---"
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th May 2024, 10:12 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 6,237
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes David, I'm sure that you would have already...

Yes David, I'm sure that you would have already been aware of much of the info in this post, but a lot of the people who may read this post might not have been.

I am of the opinion that the keris...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th May 2024, 09:32 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 943
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes Detlef, I believe most people would call it a...

Yes Detlef, I believe most people would call it a patrem.

However, strictly speaking, a keris patrem is a keris specifically for a woman.

We need to remember that in olden times, when a keris...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th May 2024, 12:47 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 943
Posted By A. G. Maisey
How long is the blade, how long overall? ...

How long is the blade, how long overall?

Looking at the two keris, side by side, I'd probably call this a patrem, provided the other keris is normal.

If requested a m'ranggi will use whatever...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th May 2024, 11:57 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 6,237
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes, there were keris with luk in the late...

Yes, there were keris with luk in the late pre-Islamic period, but at that time the bladed weapon that we now know as "keris/kris" was something that would have been restricted to the elites.

The...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 7th May 2024, 09:33 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,638
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Motifs I do have high interest in, woods not so...

Motifs I do have high interest in, woods not so much. This is perhaps due to my principal interest being in Jawa & Bali, & Jawa has used imported woods for many years and until the present. Knowing...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 7th May 2024, 02:34 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,638
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for your thoughts IP, but for the style...

Thank you for your thoughts IP, but for the style and period that would be irrelevant.

For items of rural style & lower quality it might be relevant, but not for something like this little dagger....
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th May 2024, 02:28 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 6,237
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes, a sajen, no trace of Sombro in it. Yes,...

Yes, a sajen, no trace of Sombro in it.

Yes, old, but after the common use & understanding of the waved keris as a societal icon, so after the spread into general society of the waved keris, &...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th May 2024, 08:28 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,638
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for your contribution GIO, but this...

Thank you for your contribution GIO, but this dagger is quite small, not really talibong size.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th May 2024, 09:48 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,326
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes David, this is so. The pamor is a random...

Yes David, this is so.

The pamor is a random mlumah, wos wutah I think.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th May 2024, 01:35 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,638
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Ian, I do acknowledge that it would be desirable...

Ian, I do acknowledge that it would be desirable for the entire dagger to be presented, but this would be both unethical & in contravention of Forum rules. Additionally, it would not assist in the...
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