29th April 2024, 09:10 PM | #1 |
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Pamor ron kenduru/genduru?
Hi All,
I have been reading a few articles in the forum and I am guessing that this might be a Madura keris with Pamor ron kenduru/genduru. Am I even close? Regards. |
30th April 2024, 12:18 AM | #2 |
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Welcome to the forum, Omar!
Madura sounds like a good starting point to me for both scabbard and blade... Regards, Kai |
30th April 2024, 02:56 AM | #3 |
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Yes, Madura or possibly somewhere else in East Jawa, like maybe Malang or between Malang & Surabaya.
That's the blade, the wrongko could come from a number of places, but all probably within East Jawa, the pendok is Madura. In East Jawa we would call this pamor Bulu Ayam --- chicken feathers, the blade is recent, probably after about the mid-1980's. Hilt is broadly Solo planar style. |
30th April 2024, 09:47 PM | #4 |
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I second what Alan stated, but will add that it is a very attractive and nicely made example IMO. I'd love to see it cleaned up a bit.
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10th May 2024, 06:59 AM | #5 |
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Hi,
Will this be another Madura keris with a Ron Pamor too? Cheers. |
10th May 2024, 08:31 PM | #6 |
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Yes Omar, this would be another Keris Madura with a similar pamor. The difference would be that this would be an older example, probably dating back to the 19th century. This example also has a lovely ivory donoriko hilt in very nice condition and an old Madura style mendhak. I would suggest hitting that mendhak with a polishing cloth as i believe you may find that it is tarnished silver and it should should polish up nicely. The wrongko is also a lovely carving. Over all, a very nice keris.
In general i might suggest that you begin to make separate threads for each new keris you present, though in this case the obvious similarities might make a single thread make sense. |
11th May 2024, 12:21 AM | #7 |
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It is an older Madura keris, & as such I feel that if we want to classify it as ron variation, we really should stick with the designation of Bulu Ayam.
However, I can't make my mind up if this is a bulu ayam or something else that has been attempted. There are a few different pamors that look like the ron kendhuru motifs, & the irregularity of this particular example leaves me wondering just what might have been attempted. But in any case, it is old, it is miring, it is complex, all this makes it a pretty worthwhile thing to have. |
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1)So let's say that this keris was made sometime in the 1800's. Will the Bulu ayam be considered a rare/difficult pamor to make then? 2) How long do you think it would have taken the Empu back then to produce the blade (start to finish)? Cheers. |
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