Persian jambiya or khanjar - wootz

TVV · 23rd May 2009, 12:38 AM

Cannot add much except also write: very nice, congratulations!

Valjhun · 23rd May 2009, 07:40 PM

Thank you!

What characters indicates the date??

TVV · 23rd May 2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Valjhun

Thank you!

What characters indicates the date??

Fourth picture from the top, lower pat of the blade, outside of the rest of the inlay.

Jens Nordlunde · 23rd May 2009, 09:48 PM

I read the year to be 1250 HA meaning 1834 AD - but I am not a specialist on Arabian numbers - am I wrong?

ALEX · 24th May 2009, 11:25 AM

Jens, I thought of it, and it does make sense. BUT there are 2 reasons I think the last digit - 0 - is not part of the date: it is positioned above the hotizontal allignment of the rest of the date line; and it matches another, similar character on the other side of the pattern, so I think it is a decoration and not a digit. Let's see what others think?

Jens Nordlunde · 24th May 2009, 04:52 PM

Alex, I see what you mean, and agree, but why do you think the missing number is not shown? Could the three digit number represent anything else than a year?

ALEX · 24th May 2009, 10:39 PM

Jens, sometimes the first numeral is omitted. As Arabic dates read left to right, the 1120 would be represented as 120. I do not think the three digits could stand for anything else other than a year. Sometimes the Serial Number is inscribed, but only on later objects, such as plates, boxes, etc, but not good quality blades.

23rd May 2009, 12:38 AM	#1
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	Cannot add much except also write: very nice, congratulations!

23rd May 2009, 07:40 PM	#2
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Thank you! What characters indicates the date??

23rd May 2009, 09:48 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I read the year to be 1250 HA meaning 1834 AD - but I am not a specialist on Arabian numbers - am I wrong?

24th May 2009, 11:25 AM	#5
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Jens, I thought of it, and it does make sense. BUT there are 2 reasons I think the last digit - 0 - is not part of the date: it is positioned above the hotizontal allignment of the rest of the date line; and it matches another, similar character on the other side of the pattern, so I think it is a decoration and not a digit. Let's see what others think?

24th May 2009, 04:52 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Alex, I see what you mean, and agree, but why do you think the missing number is not shown? Could the three digit number represent anything else than a year?

24th May 2009, 10:39 PM	#7
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Jens, sometimes the first numeral is omitted. As Arabic dates read left to right, the 1120 would be represented as 120. I do not think the three digits could stand for anything else other than a year. Sometimes the Serial Number is inscribed, but only on later objects, such as plates, boxes, etc, but not good quality blades.