Persian jambiya or khanjar - wootz
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Recently, I've got thisone. Nice, isn't it? What do you think?
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Yes, very nice. I like the walrus hilt - has a nice patina on it. I did not like the inlay at first. The geometrical pattern like this is known on Qajar jambiyas (This is not a writing, but a decoration). But this one is ok, and also has an inlayed date: 120=1120, which is 1708. As this is a typical Qajar jambiya, i.e. late 18th/19th Century, the date does not match it, so I doubt this is an actual year, and could be a later attempt to impress with an earlier date.
Nice jambiya! Congrats! |
Cannot add much except also write: very nice, congratulations!
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Thank you!
What characters indicates the date?? |
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I read the year to be 1250 HA meaning 1834 AD - but I am not a specialist on Arabian numbers - am I wrong?
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Jens, I thought of it, and it does make sense. BUT there are 2 reasons I think the last digit - 0 - is not part of the date: it is positioned above the hotizontal allignment of the rest of the date line; and it matches another, similar character on the other side of the pattern, so I think it is a decoration and not a digit. Let's see what others think?
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Alex, I see what you mean, and agree, but why do you think the missing number is not shown? Could the three digit number represent anything else than a year?
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Jens, sometimes the first numeral is omitted. As Arabic dates read left to right, the 1120 would be represented as 120. I do not think the three digits could stand for anything else other than a year. Sometimes the Serial Number is inscribed, but only on later objects, such as plates, boxes, etc, but not good quality blades.
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i vote for 1250. Circle means a "5". A dot means "zero". The 3rd symbol looks more like a circle to me. In Arabic words are written from right to left, but numbers are from written left to right. As far as I know if the last digit is " zero", it can be ignored and often not written sometimes. (At least on some antique items. I have no information about contemporary grammer rules of Arabic)
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Alex and Erlikhan,
Thank you very much for your explanations. I find it very interesting to see how the dates are read and understood on weapons from different areas. Jens |
Jens, you're most welcome. We all should learn from one another...
speaking of which: I still think the date is 1120. Let's see what others think... |
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