Sulu kris

scratch · 19th August 2008, 11:25 AM

Thank you for your interest and imput Gentlemen

Were kris pruduced by empu? I find the quality and artistry a testament to the skill of its maker. Battara, thanks for the Sulu confirmation

Rick, no problems, I was waiting for the hammer to fall

David, Spot on

I thought some of the metal looked like it was designed to take a pamor stain. I wondered if such cross polination of staining etching techniques could have been used in period. Curiosity got the better of me and these are the result.I was surprised to get result. I mean no disrespect by my use of warangan on this blade. To me it look quite stunning in hand, camoflaged too

Thanks for your replies Mross, Hello PenangsangII
What are the geometric sparkles/crystals in blade?

Thanks for the communication,

Dan

tunggulametung · 19th August 2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scratch

What are the geometric sparkles/crystals in blade?

Hello scratch,
Good looking kris there!

Here is an earlier thread related with your question: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5092

Spunjer · 19th August 2008, 03:57 PM

thanks for posting the pics, scratch. our handles are pretty similar. i really like the weaving pattern done on the handle.

i always wonder if the tail on the pommel broke off, but then again, for something that doesn't even protrude that much, why would it even break? i've thought about perhaps it was design that way to begin with...

Newsteel · 20th August 2008, 02:00 AM

Nice Sulu kris there. Good catch!! Yup, I must agree that most Moro kris do not have good results after using arsenic (warangan) as it may turn splotchy at some areas. Very dirty look. But personnal I have seen only one piece which turn out to be very outstanding after using warangan etching.

I am also curious about the bottom stem. I think this is not common.

Battara · 20th August 2008, 02:29 AM

And to make the point, Moro did not use arsenic......

scratch · 23rd August 2008, 03:15 PM

G'day

Tunggulametung, Thanks for the link! That is what I was looking for.
A beautiful piece Spunger! Thank you for sharing. I find kakatua/cockatoo pommel visually appealing. I recall some lovely barongs you posted, I think.
Newsteel and Battarra, Thanks for your historical accuracy, And I take the point about blochiness

Piece can easily be rendered stain free I think.
Scabbard has received some restoration to lower half I think

Thank you for your time,

Kind regards,

Daniel

Battara · 23rd August 2008, 06:08 PM

Use 220 or 240 grit sand paper (no lower) and that will get the stain off, but then you can restain with lime juice or ferrous cloride (low concentration).

20th August 2008, 02:00 AM	#4
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	Nice Sulu kris there. Good catch!! Yup, I must agree that most Moro kris do not have good results after using arsenic (warangan) as it may turn splotchy at some areas. Very dirty look. But personnal I have seen only one piece which turn out to be very outstanding after using warangan etching. I am also curious about the bottom stem. I think this is not common. Attached Images

19th August 2008, 11:25 AM	#1
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Thank you for your interest and imput Gentlemen Were kris pruduced by empu? I find the quality and artistry a testament to the skill of its maker. Battara, thanks for the Sulu confirmation Rick, no problems, I was waiting for the hammer to fall David, Spot on I thought some of the metal looked like it was designed to take a pamor stain. I wondered if such cross polination of staining etching techniques could have been used in period. Curiosity got the better of me and these are the result.I was surprised to get result. I mean no disrespect by my use of warangan on this blade. To me it look quite stunning in hand, camoflaged too Thanks for your replies Mross, Hello PenangsangII What are the geometric sparkles/crystals in blade? Thanks for the communication, Dan

19th August 2008, 03:57 PM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	thanks for posting the pics, scratch. our handles are pretty similar. i really like the weaving pattern done on the handle. i always wonder if the tail on the pommel broke off, but then again, for something that doesn't even protrude that much, why would it even break? i've thought about perhaps it was design that way to begin with...

20th August 2008, 02:29 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	And to make the point, Moro did not use arsenic......

23rd August 2008, 03:15 PM	#6
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	G'day Tunggulametung, Thanks for the link! That is what I was looking for. A beautiful piece Spunger! Thank you for sharing. I find kakatua/cockatoo pommel visually appealing. I recall some lovely barongs you posted, I think. Newsteel and Battarra, Thanks for your historical accuracy, And I take the point about blochiness Piece can easily be rendered stain free I think. Scabbard has received some restoration to lower half I think Thank you for your time, Kind regards, Daniel

23rd August 2008, 06:08 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Use 220 or 240 grit sand paper (no lower) and that will get the stain off, but then you can restain with lime juice or ferrous cloride (low concentration).