Sulu kris

scratch · 18th August 2008, 01:17 PM

Thanks for your interest Flavio.
Blade is light, 22 oz
Blade length 20 1/16 in
Overall length 24 3/4 in
To me, it is craft and art.
If all these photos are too many I will delete if required.
I have included some pre stain photos.
The blade also has a slight swollen tip.
Cheers

Dan

mross · 18th August 2008, 07:34 PM

Looks to be what I would put in the transition category. I say early 1800's. This
thread;

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6853

might be of interest. A very similiar kris.

Battara · 19th August 2008, 01:45 AM

I agree with MROSS and definitely Sulu with the front part of the ganga and the style used in the ferrule.

A great piece - congratulations!

BTW - the scabbard is later.

PenangsangII · 19th August 2008, 04:04 AM

beautiful kris sundang (Malay term). Congrats Scratch

Rick · 19th August 2008, 04:12 AM

Hi Scratch,
I don't mean to criticise but the stain looks all wrong .
I'm so sorry to bring this up .

What did you stain the blade with ?

David · 19th August 2008, 04:46 AM

I suspect that scratch may have used arsenic and lime like he did with his "Balinese" keris. If so Scratch, that would be a "mistake" of sorts. Vinegar would give a more "correct" result for a Moro kris.

scratch · 19th August 2008, 11:25 AM

Thank you for your interest and imput Gentlemen

Were kris pruduced by empu? I find the quality and artistry a testament to the skill of its maker. Battara, thanks for the Sulu confirmation

Rick, no problems, I was waiting for the hammer to fall

David, Spot on

I thought some of the metal looked like it was designed to take a pamor stain. I wondered if such cross polination of staining etching techniques could have been used in period. Curiosity got the better of me and these are the result.I was surprised to get result. I mean no disrespect by my use of warangan on this blade. To me it look quite stunning in hand, camoflaged too

Thanks for your replies Mross, Hello PenangsangII
What are the geometric sparkles/crystals in blade?

Thanks for the communication,

Dan

18th August 2008, 01:17 PM	#1
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Thanks for your interest Flavio. Blade is light, 22 oz Blade length 20 1/16 in Overall length 24 3/4 in To me, it is craft and art. If all these photos are too many I will delete if required. I have included some pre stain photos. The blade also has a slight swollen tip. Cheers Dan Attached Images

18th August 2008, 07:34 PM	#2
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Looks to be what I would put in the transition category. I say early 1800's. This thread; http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6853 might be of interest. A very similiar kris.

19th August 2008, 01:45 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I agree with MROSS and definitely Sulu with the front part of the ganga and the style used in the ferrule. A great piece - congratulations! BTW - the scabbard is later.

19th August 2008, 04:04 AM	#4
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	beautiful kris sundang (Malay term). Congrats Scratch

19th August 2008, 04:12 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Hi Scratch, I don't mean to criticise but the stain looks all wrong . I'm so sorry to bring this up . What did you stain the blade with ?

19th August 2008, 04:46 AM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I suspect that scratch may have used arsenic and lime like he did with his "Balinese" keris. If so Scratch, that would be a "mistake" of sorts. Vinegar would give a more "correct" result for a Moro kris.

19th August 2008, 11:25 AM	#7
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Thank you for your interest and imput Gentlemen Were kris pruduced by empu? I find the quality and artistry a testament to the skill of its maker. Battara, thanks for the Sulu confirmation Rick, no problems, I was waiting for the hammer to fall David, Spot on I thought some of the metal looked like it was designed to take a pamor stain. I wondered if such cross polination of staining etching techniques could have been used in period. Curiosity got the better of me and these are the result.I was surprised to get result. I mean no disrespect by my use of warangan on this blade. To me it look quite stunning in hand, camoflaged too Thanks for your replies Mross, Hello PenangsangII What are the geometric sparkles/crystals in blade? Thanks for the communication, Dan