Officers sword pattern 1796 for Light Cavalry?

[Calien]

Originally Posted by midelburgo

Calien sword is very interesting. I have seen blades marked in 1812 as made in Cadiz. And Toledo in 1813. And I have a Toledo 1814 blade. The obscured word before Fbca shall be Rl (Real).

I think it is copying a French model.

I do not think the grip and hilt were made at Toledo. Possibly they were recicled from another sword or mounted later. At that time Toledo was not using fishskin. And I have not seen those hilt ears at a Toledo sword.

I would love to see some pictures of those samples, its very rare to see anything made in spain during these years so im rather curious.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Calien

... its very rare to see anything made in spain during these years so im rather curious.

Calvó shows us a sword inscribed CADIZ. CALLAR Y OBRAR ( Shut up and work). AÑO D 1811.


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[Calien]

wow very interesting, this is clearly a sword after the 1803 british flank officer saber. First time I see the same ears as on mine, smaller and more of a half circle rather than a half oval like most british made 1796s.

[midelburgo]

Originally Posted by Calien

I would love to see some pictures of those samples, its very rare to see anything made in spain during these years so im rather curious.

I will put a light cavalry and a light infantry examples from Cadiz 1811.


Then a couple of Toledo 1814 Line cavalry.

I could not find Toledo/Cadiz 1813, Although I found a couple of Cadiz with lost date, and a 1812 no clear if Cadiz (probably) or Toledo (unlikely).

[midelburgo]

I would like to take advantage of this already going thread.

I just won this, from Spain. I will say it is a Chasseur sabre from about 1805, but I am not sure of the country. It does not look French or Austrian to me.

Has it a 1796 blade? or it is too curved?

[Calien]

Wow these are amazing! That flank officer definitely has the same style tip or very similar, are these yours?

Originally Posted by midelburgo

I will put a light cavalry and a light infantry examples from Cadiz 1811.


Then a couple of Toledo 1814 Line cavalry.

I could not find Toledo/Cadiz 1813, Although I found a couple of Cadiz with lost date, and a 1812 no clear if Cadiz (probably) or Toledo (unlikely).

[Calien]

Reviving this older thread with this amazing sample I got last night off a French website. Having a little trouble getting a hit on the crest but the model is fantastic. Samuel Brunn was around from 1797 to 1820 making top end guns and sabers (On par with Prusser) after the war he hit hard times and ended up bankrupt. As far as the crest goes I have not gotten any hits, clearly this officer was a freemason so that's one clue, and I'm not 100% sure but I think a crown is also not very common. If anyone recognizes it please let me know. Thank you and enjoy.

[Radboud]

Wonderful quality on the etching, I wonder if it wasn't an export sword. I've seen an example of a Dutch naval officer's sword by Prosser, so it is possible that Brunn exported as well.

[Radboud]

Another sword in this 'fashion style.'

I don't think that we can conclusively call these swords 1796 Pattern light cavalry sabres. There are too many variations (the 1796 LC is a pattern after all) and a lot of specific examples that can be attributed to a regimental pattern.

This sword is very light and has a short un-fullered blade. It could be a flank officer's or a light cavalry officer's dress sword or just having belonged to a militia officer. There are too many options to ever be sure.

Weight (sans scabbard) 530 grams
LOA: 865 mm
Blade length 745 mm

[Calien]

I got one very similar Radbound but its a flak officers. I wonder if there is a link.