Period Photos of People with Ethnographic Arms

cyten · 7th March 2021, 07:17 PM

Greek with Shishane & Yataghan
Armenian with Coral studded Pala

dat_man · 20th June 2021, 06:46 PM

Here are some photos from the caucasus

1- ossetians
2- circassian with pretty large kindjal and a shashka
3- men from daghistan
4- daghistani man with wife and son, he got a nice kindjal too
5- chechens

Ren Ren · 11th August 2021, 02:18 PM

Central Vietnam, presumably Darlak plateau

cyten · 27th September 2021, 03:02 PM

Khevsur with miquelet, saber and chainmail

kronckew · 27th September 2021, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cyten

Khevsur with miquelet, saber and chainmail

...and a nice small buckler!

Excellent photo!

dat_man · 27th September 2021, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cyten

Khevsur with miquelet, saber and chainmail

There are many problems with this photo:

1- the so called "four mirrors" armour over the mail which wasn't used by khevsur as far as we are aware

2- the saber Eastern georgian not khevsur

3-the the man is georgian but not not khevsur, he is a collector from from the soviet era here is an article about him:
https://museum.ge/index.php?lang_id=...&info_id=15740

Never the less it is a nice photo and shows some nice original weapons, but not a proper representation of khevsurs

ariel · 28th September 2021, 02:49 AM

There is one staged photo after another, in the one above there are multiple ethnic inconsistencies, the two pics of Ossetian men on this page seem to be wearing the same kindjal.
And there is even one picture from Odisha ( Orissa), but.... no khanjarli.

Studio photographs were heavily staged, and their validity as reflecting reality is severely compromised.

Ian · 29th September 2021, 01:39 AM

dat_man,

Thanks for your information about that "fake" photo.

Ariel,

These photos are what they are. I think we are all aware of some of the limitations of studio portraits. It's good to be reminded from time to time. Let's move on ...

cyten · 1st October 2021, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dat_man

the man is georgian but not not khevsur, he is a collector from from the soviet era here is an article about him:
https://museum.ge/index.php?lang_id=...&info_id=15740

very interesting, thanks for the article

Ren Ren · 20th October 2021, 06:23 PM

Probably Annam.
It's a shame that the background is retouched.

7th March 2021, 07:17 PM	#1
cyten Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Caucasus Posts: 94	Greek with Shishane & Yataghan Armenian with Coral studded Pala Attached Images

20th June 2021, 06:46 PM	#2
dat_man Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 16	Here are some photos from the caucasus 1- ossetians 2- circassian with pretty large kindjal and a shashka 3- men from daghistan 4- daghistani man with wife and son, he got a nice kindjal too 5- chechens Attached Images

11th August 2021, 02:18 PM	#3
Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 379	Central Vietnam, presumably Darlak plateau Attached Images

27th September 2021, 03:02 PM	#4
cyten Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Caucasus Posts: 94	Khevsur with miquelet, saber and chainmail Attached Images

20th October 2021, 06:23 PM	#10
Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 379	Probably Annam. It's a shame that the background is retouched. Attached Images

28th September 2021, 02:49 AM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	There is one staged photo after another, in the one above there are multiple ethnic inconsistencies, the two pics of Ossetian men on this page seem to be wearing the same kindjal. And there is even one picture from Odisha ( Orissa), but.... no khanjarli. Studio photographs were heavily staged, and their validity as reflecting reality is severely compromised.

29th September 2021, 01:39 AM	#8
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,452	dat_man, Thanks for your information about that "fake" photo. Ariel, These photos are what they are. I think we are all aware of some of the limitations of studio portraits. It's good to be reminded from time to time. Let's move on ...