request for translation

Oliver Pinchot · 31st October 2016, 08:30 PM

Other than the date, what is visible is all religious, including "God's Blessing" and "Hero Ali."

CharlesS · 31st October 2016, 10:49 PM

Kurt, this is, indeed, one of the most lovely kilijs/palas I have seen in some time. I am a real fan of this sword style and type, though some would consider them "late"...if the 19th century can be called that!

You may want to look into the possibility that your horn grip is giraffe. The Ottomans did use this...even rarer than the other...and yours has the correct color to be just that.

Again...magificent!

Battara · 1st November 2016, 02:12 AM

Giraffe? Didn't think of that.......

Kurt · 1st November 2016, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Giraffe? Didn't think of that.......

Battara, you're right,, it's ordinary horn.
The interior is painted red as usual at Horn.
So that it gets a nice color.

Kurt · 1st November 2016, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Giraffe? Didn't think of that.......

Battara, you're right.
It is ordinary horn.
Painted red inside, as always at Horn.
This gives a nice color.

eftihis · 1st November 2016, 01:45 PM

As far as i know, traditionaly they used a paint called "minio" to paint the inside side of the horns, to protect them from insects. THis paint was made using some metal ingredient, and it came out always red. Because the horn is transparentit also gives a nice colour to the outer side of the horn, in the handle that is visible. So maybe protection and also beauty are the reasons for this colour.

A.alnakkas · 2nd November 2016, 08:21 PM

Kurt, send clearer images to my email (on PM) and I will do the translation. Already managed to read most of it, just need clear images to be 100% certain.

Miguel · 3rd November 2016, 11:08 AM

Hi Kurt, I have not been viewing for several days so have only just seen your Kilij and my mouth is watering, what a beauty, you are very fortunate to own such a handsome weapon. The only bit of translation I could have offered was the date of 1236 AH but you already knew that. Thank you for sharing.

Regards

Miguel

Kurt · 14th November 2016, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Kurt, send clearer images to my email (on PM) and I will do the translation. Already managed to read most of it, just need clear images to be 100% certain.

Good morning A.alnakkas ,

Please tell me if you have already succeeded in translating the inscription.

Please forgive my impatience.

Best regards
Kurt

31st October 2016, 08:30 PM	#1
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 462	Other than the date, what is visible is all religious, including "God's Blessing" and "Hero Ali."

31st October 2016, 10:49 PM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Kurt, this is, indeed, one of the most lovely kilijs/palas I have seen in some time. I am a real fan of this sword style and type, though some would consider them "late"...if the 19th century can be called that! You may want to look into the possibility that your horn grip is giraffe. The Ottomans did use this...even rarer than the other...and yours has the correct color to be just that. Again...magificent!

1st November 2016, 02:12 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	Giraffe? Didn't think of that.......

1st November 2016, 01:45 PM	#6
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	As far as i know, traditionaly they used a paint called "minio" to paint the inside side of the horns, to protect them from insects. THis paint was made using some metal ingredient, and it came out always red. Because the horn is transparentit also gives a nice colour to the outer side of the horn, in the handle that is visible. So maybe protection and also beauty are the reasons for this colour.

2nd November 2016, 08:21 PM	#7
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Kurt, send clearer images to my email (on PM) and I will do the translation. Already managed to read most of it, just need clear images to be 100% certain.

3rd November 2016, 11:08 AM	#8
Miguel Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 584	Hi Kurt, I have not been viewing for several days so have only just seen your Kilij and my mouth is watering, what a beauty, you are very fortunate to own such a handsome weapon. The only bit of translation I could have offered was the date of 1236 AH but you already knew that. Thank you for sharing. Regards Miguel