dagger series, nr2 rondel dagger with spiral grip 1470

Matchlock · 7th January 2014, 04:09 PM

Hi Jasper,

I found this watercolored woodcut of late-15th c. date in the famous Agricola reprint of 1599.

Best,
Michael

cornelistromp · 7th January 2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matchlock

Hi Jasper,

I found this watercolored woodcut of late-15th c. date in the famous Agricola reprint of 1599.

Best,
Michael

Hi Michael,

thank you, very nice
it of a different type and a bit later than the one under discussion, but you can see some interesting details like the parry plate.
a parry plate with crescent shaped recess and serrated edge came around 1500.

best,
jasper

cornelistromp · 13th January 2014, 07:46 PM

an extraordinarily beautiful ballock dagger with spiral grip and Multi-section blade , a waterfind in Holland.
since the blade is single edged it could go on as a knife and so avoid the city prohibition orders against carrying a dagger within the citywalls !

fernando · 13th January 2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cornelistromp

an extraordinarily beautiful ballock dagger with spiral grip.
a waterfind in Holland.

Fascinating !
Jasper's collection ?

cornelistromp · 15th January 2014, 08:15 AM

rondel with thick plates and spiral grip
sheet of a rondel dagger , MET

junker · 11th February 2014, 09:34 PM

Hello,
so this is my example but I am worried about the item.
The guard semm to be a galvano or something like this and the whole grip seem to be restored.
The blade may have a markers mark like an arrow an could be from 1500 but also this is not sure.

cornelistromp · 13th February 2014, 08:20 AM

What exactly are your concerns, your rondel dagger looks unusual but does not look bad.

the blade and grip look authentic to me also the construction of the ring under the guardplate and the backplate are ok.

the guardplate itself, Iam not sure yet, is not very clear in the pictures.

best,
jasper

7th January 2014, 04:09 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Jasper, I found this watercolored woodcut of late-15th c. date in the famous Agricola reprint of 1599. Best, Michael Attached Images

13th January 2014, 07:46 PM	#3
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,064	an extraordinarily beautiful ballock dagger with spiral grip and Multi-section blade , a waterfind in Holland. since the blade is single edged it could go on as a knife and so avoid the city prohibition orders against carrying a dagger within the citywalls ! Attached Images

15th January 2014, 08:15 AM	#5
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,064	rondel with thick plates and spiral grip sheet of a rondel dagger , MET Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 15th January 2014 at 08:59 AM.

11th February 2014, 09:34 PM	#6
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	mine Hello, so this is my example but I am worried about the item. The guard semm to be a galvano or something like this and the whole grip seem to be restored. The blade may have a markers mark like an arrow an could be from 1500 but also this is not sure. Attached Images

13th February 2014, 08:20 AM	#7
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,064	What exactly are your concerns, your rondel dagger looks unusual but does not look bad. the blade and grip look authentic to me also the construction of the ring under the guardplate and the backplate are ok. the guardplate itself, Iam not sure yet, is not very clear in the pictures. best, jasper