dagger series, nr2 rondel dagger with spiral grip 1470
 

this extremely rare roundel dagger was found in a channel in Damme near Bruges in Belgium together with a Ballock dagger.

tapering single edged blade with concave/hollow ground surfaces, thick disks with circle and dot decoration of two different sizes.
spirally shaped handle and quatrefoil decoration brass washer under the tang button. all in a unharmed Original condition

a similar type of dagger is depicted on an altar piece from 1469.
Although many rondel daggers remain to be shown in art, there have been only a very few preserved.

a few more by daylight. 1 from Talhoffer fighting manual 1459 and 1 from myarmoury.com

Rondel dagger from rijksmuseum Brussels

Hi Jasper,

I found this watercolored woodcut of late-15th c. date in the famous Agricola reprint of 1599.

Best,
Michael

Hi Michael,

thank you, very nice
it of a different type and a bit later than the one under discussion, but you can see some interesting details like the parry plate.
a parry plate with crescent shaped recess and serrated edge came around 1500.

best,
jasper

an extraordinarily beautiful ballock dagger with spiral grip and Multi-section blade , a waterfind in Holland.
since the blade is single edged it could go on as a knife and so avoid the city prohibition orders against carrying a dagger within the citywalls !

Fascinating !
Jasper's collection ?

rondel with thick plates and spiral grip
sheet of a rondel dagger , MET

mine
 

Hello,
so this is my example but I am worried about the item.
The guard semm to be a galvano or something like this and the whole grip seem to be restored.
The blade may have a markers mark like an arrow an could be from 1500 but also this is not sure.

What exactly are your concerns, your rondel dagger looks unusual but does not look bad.

the blade and grip look authentic to me also the construction of the ring under the guardplate and the backplate are ok.

the guardplate itself, Iam not sure yet, is not very clear in the pictures.

best,
jasper

Thanks Jasper,

this both parts look too new for me, just a feeling.

Dirk