Balinese Keris Holders

asomotif · 18th October 2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GIO

Here is one of my keris holders: Hanuman again !

Nice one, but is this Hanuman ? does he have a tail for starters ?

Best regards,
Willem

ganjawulung · 19th October 2011, 05:30 AM

Hanuman, or Anoman, always has white fur, Another human-ape of Ramayana epic, is Anila with violet fur, and Anggada with red fur. In Ramayana, Anoman is the son of Dewi Anjani (name of a goddess), and Batara Guru (the highest god in wayang world). Anila is the son of Batara Narada (another god in wayang), and Anggada is the son of Sugriwa (king of Apes in Gua Kiskenda) with Dewi Tara (a goddess)...

GIO · 19th October 2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Nice one, but is this Hanuman ? does he have a tail for starters ?

Best regards,
Willem

There is a sort of tail, but similar to a piece of cloth. There is also a keris inserted in the belt.

klewang · 19th October 2011, 10:52 AM

I think Gio's kerisholder might be Twalen, the Balinese version of Semar.
I know he is mentioned in a book on Semar by Ruud Greve, can't find it right know unfortunately.

David · 19th October 2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by klewang

I think Gio's kerisholder might be Twalen, the Balinese version of Semar.
I know he is mentioned in a book on Semar by Ruud Greve, can't find it right know unfortunately.

I think this is a likely attribution. He does seem to have the appropriate widely spaced 2 teeth and general head shape.

Sajen · 19th October 2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I think this is a likely attribution. He does seem to have the appropriate widely spaced 2 teeth and general head shape.

Yes, agree most probable Twalen! Here pictures from my old Twalen figure - no keris holder but a nice old carving.

Regards,

Detlef

asomotif · 19th October 2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Yes, agree most probable Twalen! Here pictures from my old Twalen figure - no keris holder but a nice old carving.

Regards,

Detlef

Nice one Detlef.

His hands look shaped like they did hold something in the past ?

Sajen · 20th October 2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Nice one Detlef.

His hands look shaped like they did hold something in the past ?

Thank you Willem,

yes, I like it as well, good old Bali carving. You are correct by your assumption but I really don't know what. Maybe tombaks?

Regards,

Detlef

ivoke · 25th October 2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Yes, agree most probable Twalen! Here pictures from my old Twalen figure - no keris holder but a nice old carving.

Regards,

Detlef

Think its Petruk, not Twalen, but i can be wrong.

Sajen · 25th October 2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ivoke

Think its Petruk, not Twalen, but i can be wrong.

Hello Ivoke,

why you think like this? Can you explain? Thank you in advance,

Detlef

19th October 2011, 10:52 AM	#4
klewang Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 23	Twalen I think Gio's kerisholder might be Twalen, the Balinese version of Semar. I know he is mentioned in a book on Semar by Ruud Greve, can't find it right know unfortunately.

19th October 2011, 05:30 AM	#2
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Hanuman, or Anoman, always has white fur, Another human-ape of Ramayana epic, is Anila with violet fur, and Anggada with red fur. In Ramayana, Anoman is the son of Dewi Anjani (name of a goddess), and Batara Guru (the highest god in wayang world). Anila is the son of Batara Narada (another god in wayang), and Anggada is the son of Sugriwa (king of Apes in Gua Kiskenda) with Dewi Tara (a goddess)...