stunning antique persian islamic nagini sword shamshir

kronckew · 27th May 2007, 07:59 PM

love the description, everything it is not. except the stunning bit....the brass scabbard looks unusual for a moro kris.

this auction just ended, would have liked to bid but it went over my limit by a few pounds.

Ebay item no. 180118686947

i'm still looking for a good deal on a moro kris, looks like mandauman got a nice one. i guess from his user name he may know what it really is.

Tim Simmons · 27th May 2007, 09:32 PM

Is the scabbard ment to be like this? is a piece missing? the only reason I did not wade in.

Ferguson · 27th May 2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Is the scabbard ment to be like this? is a piece missing? the only reason I did not wade in.

If you're speaking about the top of the scabbard, yes. It's a common design. Sometimes I envy you gents in the UK. So many ethno pieces brought back from the far flung outposts of the empire.

Steve

kronckew · 27th May 2007, 09:52 PM

the scabbards sometimes had the swelled end on it (wranka or sampir on a keris), sometimes not. both types in the photo on the research site.

the gangya on the blade looks like it was forged along with the blade which i undestand is usually mid 20th c. rather than 19th. still a pretty item. steve f. may have more info.....

edited: i see he has commented.

Rick · 27th May 2007, 11:00 PM

Meh ...

I believe this type of scabbard is of Mindanao origin.
Brass asang asang ??

Most of the Moro stuff is here in the States .

Flavio · 27th May 2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Most of the Moro stuff is here in the States .

Yeah, unfortunately

Rick · 27th May 2007, 11:19 PM

$225.00 US is not a bad price; but personally I do not love the workmanship on this piece.

Battara · 30th May 2007, 07:55 PM

I agree - don't like the quality on it. Brass mounts are not unheard of. I suspect that some of this metal is more recent than the original blade. I would place the scabbard at being Maguindanao, which is the only group as far as I know that has this scabbard style as one of the varients.

27th May 2007, 07:59 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	stunning antique persian islamic nagini sword shamshir love the description, everything it is not. except the stunning bit....the brass scabbard looks unusual for a moro kris. this auction just ended, would have liked to bid but it went over my limit by a few pounds. Ebay item no. 180118686947 i'm still looking for a good deal on a moro kris, looks like mandauman got a nice one. i guess from his user name he may know what it really is.

27th May 2007, 09:32 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Is the scabbard ment to be like this? is a piece missing? the only reason I did not wade in.

27th May 2007, 09:52 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	the scabbards sometimes had the swelled end on it (wranka or sampir on a keris), sometimes not. both types in the photo on the research site. the gangya on the blade looks like it was forged along with the blade which i undestand is usually mid 20th c. rather than 19th. still a pretty item. steve f. may have more info..... edited: i see he has commented.

27th May 2007, 11:00 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Meh ... I believe this type of scabbard is of Mindanao origin. Brass asang asang ?? Most of the Moro stuff is here in the States .

27th May 2007, 11:19 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	$225.00 US is not a bad price; but personally I do not love the workmanship on this piece.

30th May 2007, 07:55 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	I agree - don't like the quality on it. Brass mounts are not unheard of. I suspect that some of this metal is more recent than the original blade. I would place the scabbard at being Maguindanao, which is the only group as far as I know that has this scabbard style as one of the varients.