Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 3rd January 2025, 08:56 PM   #1
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 9,991
Default NAVAJA- CATALONIAN

This HUGE navaja is one of those which is large but actually an intermediate size. The REALLY big ones were just for show, but this one is genuinely a fighting knife.

It is Spanish from northern regions, Catalonia, which borders southern France. Apparently this type navaja is termed 'gavinet' (Fr.=cabinet) probably to its obvious folding character. It also may be termed 'caracca' (Sp.=ratchet) for the toothed ratchet device which locks the blade open.

This is an older example, probably 1830s , after 1850s a ring was attached to the ratchet to disengage it in closing the blade into handle.

These of course became weapons as required during the Carlist wars (1833-1876)
Attached Images
   

Last edited by Jim McDougall; 3rd January 2025 at 09:08 PM.
Jim McDougall is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2025, 09:50 PM   #2
urbanspaceman
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tyneside. North-East England
Posts: 565
Default navaja

Hey Jim, these have always intrigued me. I often see them up to auction or for sale.
They remind me of Scottish dirks - in as much as they can be as deadly as a sword yet remain within the restricted dimensions. I've seen some with blade length exceeding the scabbard which seems odd.
However, I suspect they were an easily concealed but formidable weapon. I could say 'remain' as I'm sure they are still carried today.
Fascinating.
ps
What is the blade length of this example?
urbanspaceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2025, 11:42 PM   #3
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 9,991
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanspaceman View Post
Hey Jim, these have always intrigued me. I often see them up to auction or for sale.
They remind me of Scottish dirks - in as much as they can be as deadly as a sword yet remain within the restricted dimensions. I've seen some with blade length exceeding the scabbard which seems odd.
However, I suspect they were an easily concealed but formidable weapon. I could say 'remain' as I'm sure they are still carried today.
Fascinating.
ps
What is the blade length of this example?
Thanks Keith,
I forgot the dimensions blade 8 3/4" overall 18.5",
It is basically a dirk indeed, and deadly ,
Actually these were used by Romani and Gitano, collectively often called of course 'gypsies'. They are very much carried today as I am told by a friend who has often been situated among them, and seen these knives in action.

It seems these were carried at sea in somewhat smaller form, much aligned with the 'jack knife' (named for the jack tar sailors who used them. As with knives in general, all have a utility basis but serve as weapons as required.
The locking mechanism for the blade is intended for more formidable use as a weapon rather than tool.
Jim McDougall is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 6th January 2025, 02:16 PM   #4
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,981
Default

Very nice Spain navaja! I like it very much!
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.