SOUTH SUDAN SPEAR HEADS

BANDOOK · 25th March 2015, 09:56 AM

A SET OF 3 SUDANESE SPEAR HEADS FOR COMMENT/MORE INFORMATION REQUIRED.THESE ARE MADE FROM OLD RAILWAY SPIKES AND COLLECTED IN 1975.USED FOR HUNTING FISH,ANIMALS AND KILLING HUMANS

kronckew · 25th March 2015, 02:28 PM

i recall accounts of the battle of omdurman in 1898, the british surgeons were appalled at the wounds caused by these barbed sudanese spears and their difficulty in regards removal from the wounds. winston churchill charged with the 21st lancers in the battle, tho he used a mauser automatic in lieu of a lance. of course the modern weapons of the brits & egyptians made it mostly a massacre of the sudanese.

on our side:25,800 brits, egyptians and allied sudanese.
on the mahdi's side 52,000 sudanese.

casualties:

our side: 47 killed, 382 wounded.
their side: 10,000 killed, 13,000 wounded, 5,000 captured - i assume the remainder fled.

trenchwarfare · 25th March 2015, 03:21 PM

Nice spear heads. Yeah, that's what happens when you bring a knife, to a gun fight.

kronckew · 25th March 2015, 03:32 PM

this was also not that long after the zulus defeated the brits at islandwana by bringing knives to the gun fight. sometimes the knives win.

at omdurman the mahdi had an army of committed individual warriors fighting for their honour and their place in paradise. the brits had an army of trained soldiers fighting for each other and as a cohesive disciplined unit.

at islandwana, the brits arrogantly thought they were facing another band of native warriors and by the time they found out the zulu were themselves soldiers, not warriors, and at least as well disciplined and trained as themselves, if not more so, it was too late. if the zulu king's brother-in-law had not disobeyed orders NOT to attack fortified british positions (as in rouke's drift) the day would have ben even worse for the brits.

the gurkhas are still fond of bringing their scary bent knives to gunfights. they are also soldiers who know enough not to use them other than as a last resort. there was a brit colonel famed for going ashore at normandy in ww2 with his sword. he also carried a longbow - and used it to good effect on a few germans he personally skewered.

p.s. a law enforcement agency did a study.

a. most gun battles between LEOs and perps occurs at less tha 9 yards (avereage 7).
b. at that range a man with a knife can easily close with & slash/stab a LEO before he can draw his weapon and aim it. one reason why informed & well trained people draw their weapons BEFORE they are needed.

also the origin of the saying, if you seek a knife fight, first dig two graves.

25th March 2015, 09:56 AM	#1
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25th March 2015, 03:32 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	this was also not that long after the zulus defeated the brits at islandwana by bringing knives to the gun fight. sometimes the knives win. at omdurman the mahdi had an army of committed individual warriors fighting for their honour and their place in paradise. the brits had an army of trained soldiers fighting for each other and as a cohesive disciplined unit. at islandwana, the brits arrogantly thought they were facing another band of native warriors and by the time they found out the zulu were themselves soldiers, not warriors, and at least as well disciplined and trained as themselves, if not more so, it was too late. if the zulu king's brother-in-law had not disobeyed orders NOT to attack fortified british positions (as in rouke's drift) the day would have ben even worse for the brits. the gurkhas are still fond of bringing their scary bent knives to gunfights. they are also soldiers who know enough not to use them other than as a last resort. there was a brit colonel famed for going ashore at normandy in ww2 with his sword. he also carried a longbow - and used it to good effect on a few germans he personally skewered. p.s. a law enforcement agency did a study. a. most gun battles between LEOs and perps occurs at less tha 9 yards (avereage 7). b. at that range a man with a knife can easily close with & slash/stab a LEO before he can draw his weapon and aim it. one reason why informed & well trained people draw their weapons BEFORE they are needed. also the origin of the saying, if you seek a knife fight, first dig two graves. Last edited by kronckew; 25th March 2015 at 03:50 PM.

25th March 2015, 02:28 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	i recall accounts of the battle of omdurman in 1898, the british surgeons were appalled at the wounds caused by these barbed sudanese spears and their difficulty in regards removal from the wounds. winston churchill charged with the 21st lancers in the battle, tho he used a mauser automatic in lieu of a lance. of course the modern weapons of the brits & egyptians made it mostly a massacre of the sudanese. on our side:25,800 brits, egyptians and allied sudanese. on the mahdi's side 52,000 sudanese. casualties: our side: 47 killed, 382 wounded. their side: 10,000 killed, 13,000 wounded, 5,000 captured - i assume the remainder fled.

25th March 2015, 03:21 PM	#3
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Nice spear heads. Yeah, that's what happens when you bring a knife, to a gun fight.