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Hi guys.
This is a bugis sumbawa keris, as I was told. I believe it was, with the identification of the flat blade face which this keris possess. The blade looks like an old article, the warangka might not but it fits nicely. However, the luk's work is puzzling me, since it was dead at right-end, instead of left-hand. Does it matters for the luk to end on the left hand-side all the time? This is because most of kerises I've seen are, but several (very seldom) end it luks at right hand-side. I was told by someone that this might have to do with the empu, where a fierce / stern empus usually made this kind of luks as their signature. Is this view claims valid groud? On the other hand, it might looks like a 6-luks keris, which is an out-of-pakem kind of keris. Kindly tell me what are your view? |
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It does look like an odd one (being even that is
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Thanks for the view, David.
Not only where the pamor ends, even the proportion of the blade width to the end also suggesting no besutan nor repairs being executed recently. So I believe the blade was at it's original length, all the way. Being that, it could be an even-luks blade, and out-of-pakem? I do count six, so do you, but some say it's seven luks, where I don't see it. Not that I am going to argue with the luks, perhaps it's only people, seeing things differently... |
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I personally subscribe to the point of view that there is no such thing as a blade with even luk.
Culturally it is a complete impossibility for a keris blade to have an even number of luk, as the keris is the ultimate male symbol, and the masculine is associated with uneven numbers. Where a blade appears to end as an even number you must add one to make it uneven. Some people will disagree with this, but the ones I have met who do disagree have been very much less keris conscious than the ones I have met who hold this point of view. |
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I can sort of envision this as a 5 luk blade; but why the orientation of the tip ?
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No, not 5, but 7.
Start on the first wave above the gandik and the count must finish at the point on the same side as the gandik, it cannot finish on the opposite side of the blade to the gandik. Why the strange shape? Not all people who made blades were masters.This bloke has probably done the best he could, but if you look at this blade in detail, its just a blade. I reckon it has been made by a smith, rather than a pandai keris, and he was working to the limit of his ability. The bloke who made this was trying too hard. |
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Ahh, gotcha Alan .
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I also subscribe to the point the there can only be an uneven number of luk, that said for anyone that may have trouble determining the amount of luk on a blade, there is an easy way which was taught to me in Solo.
Very simple, count the waves on one side of the blade, double the number and add 1. As Alan said start with the first wave above the gandik, if there are six waves double to twelve and add one = total 13 luk |
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"it might looks like a 6-luks keris" Are you sure that this blade always has been a wavy one? guwaya |
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You might be right.
The smith might have tried his best NOT TO finish the blade with the final luks, which should be at right-hand. Because in my view, if he did that, the proportion of luks will look weird, and out of place. |
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Guwaya, i am sure the blade is wavy, coz the flat blade face (unfortunately, not so clear in the pix, i might posted some more pix) is wavy as well. |
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