expencive moro kris

vampire · 14th December 2009, 12:47 PM

hai
here is the vampire
question to them how know more than me.
so that means many of you
why did ,that moro kris on ebay of 14 dec no 280435891287
bring 850 dollars ?????????
is there moro to know about this item ,that i do not see ????
if some one could tell me more ,it would make me very happy

greet to all on the site
the vampire

Rick · 14th December 2009, 04:09 PM

1. it has 27 waves in the blade .

2. there is a possibility the core of the blade is of twisted steel .

3. the tiny ivory pommel is usually a sign of an early sword .

I would be willing to bet that if the Seller had posted even halfway decent photos of this sword it would have sold for much more .

vampire · 14th December 2009, 04:24 PM

he rick
thank you for the info
and yes the photo where so / so
greet
vampire

David · 14th December 2009, 05:12 PM

Agreed. This was a somewhat unusual piece.

Sajen · 14th December 2009, 05:24 PM

Agree with David and Rick, this is a very nice Kris. BTW, I also have been one of the bidders.

Rick · 14th December 2009, 05:28 PM

Did you check the bid history ?

Someone lost it by a PENNY !!

Ferguson · 14th December 2009, 05:43 PM

Pictures for posterity. Looks like a nice one!
Steve

Battara · 14th December 2009, 05:58 PM

I wonder if it was originally a junggayan that was modified later (due to breakage). Carving could also be original, but just a little odd for the size of pommel.

mross · 14th December 2009, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I wonder if it was originally a junggayan that was modified later (due to breakage). Carving could also be original, but just a little odd for the size of pommel.

Jose, that may be what bothered me about it. I kept looking at this and my little voice said something is not right. So I did not enter the fray. I agree the pictures where not the best. From my own perspective, if the pictures are not good there is usually a reason for it. Most sellers on ebay know what they have. Reference my thread awhile back about a potential twist core that the seller did not supply close ups when asked. I don't think that one was a twist core and I don't think this one is either.

kino · 14th December 2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I wonder if it was originally a junggayan that was modified later (due to breakage). Carving could also be original, but just a little odd for the size of pommel.

Same thought here.
Also the rattan wrap concerned me. I was thinking that it should have some kind of metal bands or at least better rattan weaving.

vampire · 14th December 2009, 09:53 PM

hai battra
i am new on this field of moro kris
but i had the same feeling
i did look at the sale and did not bid
rick did explane it to me and i think he knows
more on the field than i
but i did wonder on the origin of this kris
but oke next year next time we know more
great day

Bill · 15th December 2009, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mross

From my own perspective, if the pictures are not good there is usually a reason for it.

Besides a clean, patina free "ivory" pommel next to a aged pommel band & the rattan; the engraved lines appear like they were done with a electric engraving tool. The waves appear to be stock removal, original or not, hard to say but the with the rest of the oddities, I'd be concerned. The darkness of it, says a heavy acid etch, giving it some appearance of age. My guess is it was once a straight kris with a softer core & would be surprised to see someone post it with a twisted core. Of course, just my opinion from the present pictures.

Gavin Nugent · 15th December 2009, 12:48 AM

I would say there is no twist core there but certainly a difference in steel.
Like some I have and had, this is most likely an old collection piece that is covered in a protective film, the centre will be an open pattern laminated steel and the outer edges a different finely laminated and very sharp steel.
When cleaned they do present a very attractive blade. The fine lines I can not comment on but fine quality lines are not unheard of.

Gav

14th December 2009, 12:47 PM	#1
vampire Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: amsterdam holland Posts: 28	expencive moro kris hai here is the vampire question to them how know more than me. so that means many of you why did ,that moro kris on ebay of 14 dec no 280435891287 bring 850 dollars ????????? is there moro to know about this item ,that i do not see ???? if some one could tell me more ,it would make me very happy greet to all on the site the vampire

14th December 2009, 04:24 PM	#3
vampire Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: amsterdam holland Posts: 28	thank you he rick thank you for the info and yes the photo where so / so greet vampire

14th December 2009, 05:43 PM	#7
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Pictures for posterity. Looks like a nice one! Steve Attached Images

14th December 2009, 09:53 PM	#11
vampire Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: amsterdam holland Posts: 28	i wonder hai battra i am new on this field of moro kris but i had the same feeling i did look at the sale and did not bid rick did explane it to me and i think he knows more on the field than i but i did wonder on the origin of this kris but oke next year next time we know more great day

15th December 2009, 12:48 AM	#13
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Interesting I would say there is no twist core there but certainly a difference in steel. Like some I have and had, this is most likely an old collection piece that is covered in a protective film, the centre will be an open pattern laminated steel and the outer edges a different finely laminated and very sharp steel. When cleaned they do present a very attractive blade. The fine lines I can not comment on but fine quality lines are not unheard of. Gav

14th December 2009, 04:09 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	1. it has 27 waves in the blade . 2. there is a possibility the core of the blade is of twisted steel . 3. the tiny ivory pommel is usually a sign of an early sword . I would be willing to bet that if the Seller had posted even halfway decent photos of this sword it would have sold for much more .

14th December 2009, 05:12 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Agreed. This was a somewhat unusual piece.

14th December 2009, 05:24 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Agree with David and Rick, this is a very nice Kris. BTW, I also have been one of the bidders.

14th December 2009, 05:28 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Did you check the bid history ? Someone lost it by a PENNY !!

14th December 2009, 05:58 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	I wonder if it was originally a junggayan that was modified later (due to breakage). Carving could also be original, but just a little odd for the size of pommel.