painted Keris

chregu · 16th March 2013, 11:40 AM

hello together

'd like to introduce you to my newest.
I bought him last night, he belonged to a traveling salesman who has brought him from Indonesia.
I've seen many keris, I own a few, but still almost no painted.
who knows more about it? All information is welcome

thank you
Chregu

David · 16th March 2013, 05:35 PM

Painted sheaths are referred to as sunggingan Chregu. There has been a little bit of resurgence in the art of late, but yours appears to be an older example which is a bit rarer.

Rick · 16th March 2013, 10:09 PM

It looks like the seal of Mataram is painted on the wrangka .
This keris looks old and well crafted .

Jean · 16th March 2013, 10:10 PM

I can't tell if this sheath is old or not but I notice that the atasan was broken in 2 places. The decoration shows the blazon of the Solo kraton but the finish is not that good.
The blade looks old and the pamor is nice (Tirto Tejo?) but it lacks elegance due to the indistinct and uneven waves, these pieces are often attributed to Cirebon, any other opinion?
Best regards

Rick · 16th March 2013, 10:21 PM

Pre WWII blade ?
Dress is 60's-70's and it's had a beating ?

Pamor control seems pretty good .

chregu · 17th March 2013, 05:40 PM

hello together

many thanks for all your information.
to repeat: painted sheaths are called "sunggingan".
"The decoration shows the blazon of the Solo kraton". is it just the whole presentation, or the round part in the middle?
even as an addition: the whole Wrangka thick primed white.
The whole painting is very fine and accurately performed, except everything is painted in gold.

again thanks
beautiful Sunday evening
chregu

Rick · 17th March 2013, 08:00 PM

A. G. Maisey · 18th March 2013, 04:53 AM

I'm pretty much with Jean all the way on this.

The motif could be given as "lung-lungan", or "vines".

The sunggingan work is quite inferior, the sort of thing you'd buy already done from a market stall. I doubt that it is very old, I think its just had a hard life. The green pendok is correct colour for wear by a person in the Surakarta Karaton with the rank of mentri. The finish on these pendok is traditionally a sort of enamel that we call "kemalo", it is extremely fragile and in an older keris is almost always cracked and peeling off in lumps. More recent pendok are finished in auto enamel, which is much more durable.

Blade style is probably attributable to north coast Jawa, but the width of the blumbangan and kembang kacang form means that it would very probably be given a tangguh of Segaluh.

chregu · 19th March 2013, 09:40 PM

hello together

I thank you all very much for the interesting information.
I cleaned the waranka (cotton and little soap) and then oiled.
Now the colors light up again, looks great, has a lot of joy in it.
will again set pictures as soon as I have time in the day to take pictures.
many thanks again to all who responded.

many greetings
Chregu

chregu · 24th March 2013, 05:43 PM

hello together
I am again rely on some help
the word "mentri" do not translate. what is it?

also the set
"Blade style is probably able to attribute north coast Jawa, but the width of the blum bangan Kembang kacang and shape means that it would very probably be given a Tangguh of Segaluh"
I can not really understand. sorry am not a specialist keris.

greetings Chregu

Sajen · 24th March 2013, 07:03 PM

Mentri means minister in free translation. Keris with green kemalo pendoks are worn by this persons in the keraton of Solo.

Segaluh is a tangguh from West Java. The shape of the blade let Alan think that this blade can be attributed to this tangguh.

Regards,

Detlef

Marcokeris · 25th March 2013, 12:04 AM

Could be a tritik pamor?

16th March 2013, 11:40 AM	#1
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	painted Keris hello together 'd like to introduce you to my newest. I bought him last night, he belonged to a traveling salesman who has brought him from Indonesia. I've seen many keris, I own a few, but still almost no painted. who knows more about it? All information is welcome thank you Chregu Attached Images

16th March 2013, 10:10 PM	#4
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I can't tell if this sheath is old or not but I notice that the atasan was broken in 2 places. The decoration shows the blazon of the Solo kraton but the finish is not that good. The blade looks old and the pamor is nice (Tirto Tejo?) but it lacks elegance due to the indistinct and uneven waves, these pieces are often attributed to Cirebon, any other opinion? Best regards Last edited by Jean; 17th March 2013 at 11:49 AM.

17th March 2013, 05:40 PM	#6
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	hello together many thanks for all your information. to repeat: painted sheaths are called "sunggingan". "The decoration shows the blazon of the Solo kraton". is it just the whole presentation, or the round part in the middle? even as an addition: the whole Wrangka thick primed white. The whole painting is very fine and accurately performed, except everything is painted in gold. again thanks beautiful Sunday evening chregu Attached Images

17th March 2013, 08:00 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Attached Images

24th March 2013, 05:43 PM	#10
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	hello together I am again rely on some help the word "mentri" do not translate. what is it? also the set "Blade style is probably able to attribute north coast Jawa, but the width of the blum bangan Kembang kacang and shape means that it would very probably be given a Tangguh of Segaluh" I can not really understand. sorry am not a specialist keris. greetings Chregu Attached Images

16th March 2013, 05:35 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Painted sheaths are referred to as sunggingan Chregu. There has been a little bit of resurgence in the art of late, but yours appears to be an older example which is a bit rarer.

16th March 2013, 10:09 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	It looks like the seal of Mataram is painted on the wrangka . This keris looks old and well crafted .

16th March 2013, 10:21 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Pre WWII blade ? Dress is 60's-70's and it's had a beating ? Pamor control seems pretty good .

18th March 2013, 04:53 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	I'm pretty much with Jean all the way on this. The motif could be given as "lung-lungan", or "vines". The sunggingan work is quite inferior, the sort of thing you'd buy already done from a market stall. I doubt that it is very old, I think its just had a hard life. The green pendok is correct colour for wear by a person in the Surakarta Karaton with the rank of mentri. The finish on these pendok is traditionally a sort of enamel that we call "kemalo", it is extremely fragile and in an older keris is almost always cracked and peeling off in lumps. More recent pendok are finished in auto enamel, which is much more durable. Blade style is probably attributable to north coast Jawa, but the width of the blumbangan and kembang kacang form means that it would very probably be given a tangguh of Segaluh.

19th March 2013, 09:40 PM	#9
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	hello together I thank you all very much for the interesting information. I cleaned the waranka (cotton and little soap) and then oiled. Now the colors light up again, looks great, has a lot of joy in it. will again set pictures as soon as I have time in the day to take pictures. many thanks again to all who responded. many greetings Chregu

24th March 2013, 07:03 PM	#11
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Mentri means minister in free translation. Keris with green kemalo pendoks are worn by this persons in the keraton of Solo. Segaluh is a tangguh from West Java. The shape of the blade let Alan think that this blade can be attributed to this tangguh. Regards, Detlef

25th March 2013, 12:04 AM	#12
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Could be a tritik pamor?