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chregu 16th March 2013 11:40 AM

painted Keris
 
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hello together

'd like to introduce you to my newest.
I bought him last night, he belonged to a traveling salesman who has brought him from Indonesia.
I've seen many keris, I own a few, but still almost no painted.
who knows more about it? All information is welcome


thank you
Chregu

David 16th March 2013 05:35 PM

Painted sheaths are referred to as sunggingan Chregu. There has been a little bit of resurgence in the art of late, but yours appears to be an older example which is a bit rarer.

Rick 16th March 2013 10:09 PM

It looks like the seal of Mataram is painted on the wrangka .
This keris looks old and well crafted . :)

Jean 16th March 2013 10:10 PM

I can't tell if this sheath is old or not but I notice that the atasan was broken in 2 places. The decoration shows the blazon of the Solo kraton but the finish is not that good.
The blade looks old and the pamor is nice (Tirto Tejo?) but it lacks elegance due to the indistinct and uneven waves, these pieces are often attributed to Cirebon, any other opinion?
Best regards

Rick 16th March 2013 10:21 PM

Pre WWII blade ?
Dress is 60's-70's and it's had a beating ? :shrug:
Pamor control seems pretty good .

chregu 17th March 2013 05:40 PM

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hello together

many thanks for all your information.
to repeat: painted sheaths are called "sunggingan".
"The decoration shows the blazon of the Solo kraton". is it just the whole presentation, or the round part in the middle?
even as an addition: the whole Wrangka thick primed white.
The whole painting is very fine and accurately performed, except everything is painted in gold.

again thanks
beautiful Sunday evening
chregu

Rick 17th March 2013 08:00 PM

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A. G. Maisey 18th March 2013 04:53 AM

I'm pretty much with Jean all the way on this.

The motif could be given as "lung-lungan", or "vines".

The sunggingan work is quite inferior, the sort of thing you'd buy already done from a market stall. I doubt that it is very old, I think its just had a hard life. The green pendok is correct colour for wear by a person in the Surakarta Karaton with the rank of mentri. The finish on these pendok is traditionally a sort of enamel that we call "kemalo", it is extremely fragile and in an older keris is almost always cracked and peeling off in lumps. More recent pendok are finished in auto enamel, which is much more durable.

Blade style is probably attributable to north coast Jawa, but the width of the blumbangan and kembang kacang form means that it would very probably be given a tangguh of Segaluh.

chregu 19th March 2013 09:40 PM

hello together

I thank you all very much for the interesting information.
I cleaned the waranka (cotton and little soap) and then oiled.
Now the colors light up again, looks great, has a lot of joy in it.
will again set pictures as soon as I have time in the day to take pictures.
many thanks again to all who responded.

many greetings
Chregu

chregu 24th March 2013 05:43 PM

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hello together
I am again rely on some help
the word "mentri" do not translate. what is it?

also the set
"Blade style is probably able to attribute north coast Jawa, but the width of the blum bangan Kembang kacang and shape means that it would very probably be given a Tangguh of Segaluh"
I can not really understand. sorry am not a specialist keris.

greetings Chregu

Sajen 24th March 2013 07:03 PM

Mentri means minister in free translation. Keris with green kemalo pendoks are worn by this persons in the keraton of Solo.

Segaluh is a tangguh from West Java. The shape of the blade let Alan think that this blade can be attributed to this tangguh.

Regards,

Detlef

Marcokeris 25th March 2013 12:04 AM

Could be a tritik pamor?


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