Malay (?) keris from Ebay

David · 14th March 2010, 07:48 AM

Well, you all probably know that i don't tend to post images of my blades on this forum all too often, but this question really is interesting to me and i feel the need to post this one to help us reach a better understanding on this subject. I have always assumed that this blade was from the peninsula. The man i got it from is an old collector who collected it many years back, i believe in the late 60s or early 70s. It indeed has topographical relief, though not as pronounced as this first example. I did not photograph it to excentuate the relief, but i think you can see it clearly in the photos.
So what do we all think the origin of this keris is? Peninsula or Madura?

A. G. Maisey · 14th March 2010, 08:30 AM

Not at all like any Madura blade I've ever seen, David, also the cross section is Bugis.Pamor is not Madura in either construction or execution.

I do not know exactly where it is from, but in my experience, not Madura.

BluErf · 14th March 2010, 11:35 AM

This has to be Terengganu. All parts of it.

Almost a brother to one of my kerises, except that the blade is a sepokal.

Gustav · 14th March 2010, 12:22 PM

just for comparison.

David · 14th March 2010, 06:44 PM

Thank you Alan and Kai Wee for your responses. Terengganu is where i had thought this keris was from, but when Alan expressed that respected people on this subject had suggested to him that this kind of topographic relief pamor is virtually unknown from this area it raised a serious question with me about it's origin. Ultimately where it is from would not effect my liking for this keris, but it is an important piece of information that i would like to have correct about any keris i own if possible.

Gustav · 14th March 2010, 07:32 PM

File marks seem also to be not unusual, becouse of the resharpening praktice.

David · 14th March 2010, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

File marks seem also to be not unusual, becouse of the resharpening praktice.

I am not aware of any resharpening practice. Can you elaborate?

14th March 2010, 07:48 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well, you all probably know that i don't tend to post images of my blades on this forum all too often, but this question really is interesting to me and i feel the need to post this one to help us reach a better understanding on this subject. I have always assumed that this blade was from the peninsula. The man i got it from is an old collector who collected it many years back, i believe in the late 60s or early 70s. It indeed has topographical relief, though not as pronounced as this first example. I did not photograph it to excentuate the relief, but i think you can see it clearly in the photos. So what do we all think the origin of this keris is? Peninsula or Madura? Attached Images

14th March 2010, 12:22 PM	#4
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	just for comparison. Attached Images Last edited by Gustav; 14th March 2010 at 08:06 PM.

14th March 2010, 07:32 PM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	File marks seem also to be not unusual, becouse of the resharpening praktice. Last edited by Gustav; 14th March 2010 at 08:24 PM.

14th March 2010, 08:30 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Not at all like any Madura blade I've ever seen, David, also the cross section is Bugis.Pamor is not Madura in either construction or execution. I do not know exactly where it is from, but in my experience, not Madura.

14th March 2010, 11:35 AM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	This has to be Terengganu. All parts of it. Almost a brother to one of my kerises, except that the blade is a sepokal.

14th March 2010, 06:44 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Thank you Alan and Kai Wee for your responses. Terengganu is where i had thought this keris was from, but when Alan expressed that respected people on this subject had suggested to him that this kind of topographic relief pamor is virtually unknown from this area it raised a serious question with me about it's origin. Ultimately where it is from would not effect my liking for this keris, but it is an important piece of information that i would like to have correct about any keris i own if possible.