Weird sword for comments, pls.

Robert · 3rd March 2010, 07:22 PM

I too was watching this strange sword but like you have no idea of what it is.

Still it is a very nice item and hopefully will raise a good discussion.

Robert

laEspadaAncha · 3rd March 2010, 07:41 PM

The incredibly rare, ever-elusive Filipino-Frankensword?

kai · 3rd March 2010, 09:27 PM

I'm sure I saw a very similar sword years(?) ago but can't figure out where I put the pics/data (if any).

It sure is fancy enough to fit with the fantasy depiction of pieces from the Moro weapon plaques.

However, the elephant's face doesn't look Moro (nor Visayan/Luzon) to me - I'd guess at an Indonesian origin: Negara, Sulawesi, Sumatra...

Where's Michael when we need him?

Regards,
Kai

asomotif · 4th March 2010, 12:29 AM

I would say it might be some Java / Sumatra like thing.

Battara · 4th March 2010, 03:32 AM

Yes I agree with Kai - does not look Philippines at all.

Rick · 4th March 2010, 03:40 AM

What about the three bars at the forte ?
Moro influenced mid Philippine Archipelago, N. Mindanao ??

Anyone ?

Not really getting a Sumatran gestalt here .

VANDOO · 4th March 2010, 04:14 AM

MY BEST GUESS IS STILL PHILIPPINE POST WW2.
BUT WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION ON THE ITEM SIZE, MONO STEEL OR FOLDED, DOES THE HANDLE HAVE A PIN THRU THE TANG, IS THERE A REAL PATINA ON THE HANDLE OR HAS IT BEEN SINGED IN A FIRE?
I THINK IT WAS INSPIRED BY LOOKING AT SWORDS ON A MORO WEAPONS PLACK AND PERHAPS THE MAKER FELT THE SIMI KRIS CARVEING MIGHT LOOK NEAT?. THE WORK APPEARS TO BE CRUDE AND I AM GUESSING MONO STEEL PERHAPS A TRUCK OR JEEP SPRING
IT COULD BE MORE RECENT MANUFACTURE IN INDONESIA BUT MOST OF THOSE I HAVE SEEN IN BALI HAVE BEEN FAIRLY GOOD COPIES OF TRADITIONAL FORMS.
I HAVE SEEN MORE STRANGE CRUDLEY MADE AS WELL AS WELL MADE FORMS RESEMBELING THIS ONE ORIGINATING IN THE PHILIPPINES OVER THE YEARS. AND THE CLOSEST I HAVE SEEN TO IT HAS BEEN ON MORO PLACKS. PERHAPS THE POSTER CAN GIVE US A BIT MORE INFO ON THE ITEM?.

3rd March 2010, 09:27 PM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	I'm sure I saw a very similar sword years(?) ago but can't figure out where I put the pics/data (if any). It sure is fancy enough to fit with the fantasy depiction of pieces from the Moro weapon plaques. However, the elephant's face doesn't look Moro (nor Visayan/Luzon) to me - I'd guess at an Indonesian origin: Negara, Sulawesi, Sumatra... Where's Michael when we need him? Regards, Kai Last edited by kai; 3rd March 2010 at 09:44 PM.

3rd March 2010, 07:22 PM	#1
Robert (deceased) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I too was watching this strange sword but like you have no idea of what it is. Still it is a very nice item and hopefully will raise a good discussion. Robert

3rd March 2010, 07:41 PM	#2
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	The incredibly rare, ever-elusive Filipino-Frankensword?

4th March 2010, 12:29 AM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,238	I would say it might be some Java / Sumatra like thing.

4th March 2010, 03:32 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,363	Yes I agree with Kai - does not look Philippines at all.

4th March 2010, 03:40 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,378	What about the three bars at the forte ? Moro influenced mid Philippine Archipelago, N. Mindanao ?? Anyone ? Not really getting a Sumatran gestalt here .

4th March 2010, 04:14 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MY BEST GUESS IS STILL PHILIPPINE POST WW2. BUT WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION ON THE ITEM SIZE, MONO STEEL OR FOLDED, DOES THE HANDLE HAVE A PIN THRU THE TANG, IS THERE A REAL PATINA ON THE HANDLE OR HAS IT BEEN SINGED IN A FIRE? I THINK IT WAS INSPIRED BY LOOKING AT SWORDS ON A MORO WEAPONS PLACK AND PERHAPS THE MAKER FELT THE SIMI KRIS CARVEING MIGHT LOOK NEAT?. THE WORK APPEARS TO BE CRUDE AND I AM GUESSING MONO STEEL PERHAPS A TRUCK OR JEEP SPRING IT COULD BE MORE RECENT MANUFACTURE IN INDONESIA BUT MOST OF THOSE I HAVE SEEN IN BALI HAVE BEEN FAIRLY GOOD COPIES OF TRADITIONAL FORMS. I HAVE SEEN MORE STRANGE CRUDLEY MADE AS WELL AS WELL MADE FORMS RESEMBELING THIS ONE ORIGINATING IN THE PHILIPPINES OVER THE YEARS. AND THE CLOSEST I HAVE SEEN TO IT HAS BEEN ON MORO PLACKS. PERHAPS THE POSTER CAN GIVE US A BIT MORE INFO ON THE ITEM?.