shamshir for comment and translation

ward · 18th February 2010, 09:48 PM

The top line in the cartouche under the guard reads, Assistance from Allah and vicrtory is near. Put some closeups, can't make anything out of the rest.

Ward

Dom · 19th February 2010, 01:52 AM

Hi "Husar"
first comments,
- reasonably, we might consider your shamshir as Egyptian

- the swordsmith, in his mark, gave his title, typically Egyptian

- pity that some inlay are erased, or under the guard ... due to that, the translation is partly done

the rectangular cartouche;
1st lign;
qari Fath Allah menne Nasr either Victory from God and an Imminent Conquest
2nd lign;
momenime all ????? (under the guard) either ????? the Beleivers
3rd lign;
sorry, but didn't found the sens of the sentence, no translation

à +

Dom

Dom · 19th February 2010, 02:05 AM

now, the explanation about the affirmation of the sword provenance; Egypt

the second cartouche is the mark of the swordsmith

1st lign;
too much damages with the inlay, no translation ... sorry

2nd lign;
Osta al Amal either made by the "Master" (Osta, is an Egyptian title, title not used by other countries)
3rd lign;
Hassan (not easy to read it ...

)
4th lign;
Mustafa
5th lign;
Allah

à +

Dom

ward · 19th February 2010, 02:45 AM

It's probably Take the glad news to the belivers.
Maybe in Egyptian they say Osta, everywhere else it's Usta for master

HUSAR · 13th March 2010, 12:32 PM

hello and thank you very much for help in translation!!! always nice to know what is written on the blade

I just posted nice pulwar with inscribed blade I hope this time you will be able to translate it as well

19th February 2010, 01:52 AM	#2
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Hi "Husar" first comments, - reasonably, we might consider your shamshir as Egyptian - the swordsmith, in his mark, gave his title, typically Egyptian - pity that some inlay are erased, or under the guard ... due to that, the translation is partly done the rectangular cartouche; 1st lign; qari Fath Allah menne Nasr either Victory from God and an Imminent Conquest 2nd lign; momenime all ????? (under the guard) either ????? the Beleivers 3rd lign; sorry, but didn't found the sens of the sentence, no translation à + Dom Attached Images

19th February 2010, 02:05 AM	#3
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	now, the explanation about the affirmation of the sword provenance; Egypt the second cartouche is the mark of the swordsmith 1st lign; too much damages with the inlay, no translation ... sorry 2nd lign; Osta al Amal either made by the "Master" (Osta, is an Egyptian title, title not used by other countries) 3rd lign; Hassan (not easy to read it ... ) 4th lign; Mustafa 5th lign; Allah à + Dom Attached Images

18th February 2010, 09:48 PM	#1
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	The top line in the cartouche under the guard reads, Assistance from Allah and vicrtory is near. Put some closeups, can't make anything out of the rest. Ward

19th February 2010, 02:45 AM	#4
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	It's probably Take the glad news to the belivers. Maybe in Egyptian they say Osta, everywhere else it's Usta for master

13th March 2010, 12:32 PM	#5
HUSAR Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 80	hello and thank you very much for help in translation!!! always nice to know what is written on the blade I just posted nice pulwar with inscribed blade I hope this time you will be able to translate it as well