turkish ottoman officers sword writing

mavi1970 · 9th January 2010, 11:27 PM

hehe, i didnt know it was upside down. being turkish, old turkish/arabic is not my forte. particulairs of sword is its german made smaller size, 20 inch, probably an officer or artilery sword. there are other swords similair for sale like mine but the number on the blade and scabbard are different.
i will post more pics later.

Dom · 9th January 2010, 11:58 PM

Hi
what I might said, it's not Arabic language
could be Turkish ??
just the first word has been translated => ﺍﷲ => ALLAH => GOD

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Dom

mavi1970 · 10th January 2010, 02:05 PM

here is another picture. its so hard to take pictures and get the right light.

mavi1970 · 12th January 2010, 11:50 AM

here is a more clear picture, can anyone understand the writing?

katana · 12th January 2010, 03:06 PM

Hi,
after some research ...I can tell you that if old Turkish script it would date the sword WW1 or earlier. Apparently the Turks changed their alphabet to the latin characters after WWI.

The sword that I have been offered seems to have the identical script (the pictures sent to me are not to clear) including the 'decorative' scrolls either end. I would assume that this inscription is not 'personalised' to the owner but a 'standardised' inscription.

Regards David

katana · 12th January 2010, 03:31 PM

Found this ........a description of a very similar sword, WW1

Turkish junior Infantry Officer's sword and scabbard. The hilt has a brass D shape stirrup guard, a plain brass back strap and wooden grips with ten horizontal bands.

The straight plain blade has a double edge to a spear point and the ricasso has an Arabic inscription that reads as

'God (Allah) is with his own (or company)' . on the right side of blade

Hopefully,....translation found

Regards David

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Dom · 12th January 2010, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katana

the ricasso has an Arabic inscription that reads as

'God (Allah) is with his own (or company)' . on the right side of blade

Hopefully,....translation found

Hi David
might I correct you, when you wrote "the ricasso has an Arabic inscription"
revised by "the ricasso has an inscription in Arabic script ..."

coze, it's what ever you want as language, excepted from Arabic, sorry

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Dom

9th January 2010, 11:27 PM	#1
mavi1970 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada Posts: 90	hehe, i didnt know it was upside down. being turkish, old turkish/arabic is not my forte. particulairs of sword is its german made smaller size, 20 inch, probably an officer or artilery sword. there are other swords similair for sale like mine but the number on the blade and scabbard are different. i will post more pics later. Attached Images

9th January 2010, 11:58 PM	#2
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Hi what I might said, it's not Arabic language could be Turkish ?? just the first word has been translated => ﺍﷲ => ALLAH => GOD à + Dom Attached Images

10th January 2010, 02:05 PM	#3
mavi1970 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada Posts: 90	here is another picture. its so hard to take pictures and get the right light. Attached Images

12th January 2010, 03:31 PM	#6
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Found this ........a description of a very similar sword, WW1 Turkish junior Infantry Officer's sword and scabbard. The hilt has a brass D shape stirrup guard, a plain brass back strap and wooden grips with ten horizontal bands. The straight plain blade has a double edge to a spear point and the ricasso has an Arabic inscription that reads as 'God (Allah) is with his own (or company)' . on the right side of blade Hopefully,....translation found Regards David . Attached Images

12th January 2010, 11:50 AM	#4
mavi1970 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada Posts: 90	here is a more clear picture, can anyone understand the writing?

12th January 2010, 03:06 PM	#5
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi, after some research ...I can tell you that if old Turkish script it would date the sword WW1 or earlier. Apparently the Turks changed their alphabet to the latin characters after WWI. The sword that I have been offered seems to have the identical script (the pictures sent to me are not to clear) including the 'decorative' scrolls either end. I would assume that this inscription is not 'personalised' to the owner but a 'standardised' inscription. Regards David