Meet my new Keris

Alam Shah · 8th May 2005, 05:49 PM

If I'm not mistaken, the shiny silverish part is known as Pamor Akhodiat. In East Java and Madura, it's also known as Pamor Deling. As for the crystalline structures, I've seen many of those in the past. I have one, too.

nechesh · 8th May 2005, 06:20 PM

I agree with Alam about pamor akhodiat, though it would be pretty tough to determine from the quality of the photos shown.
If i am not mistaken it was forbidden for a time for keris not of the court to have gonjo with pamor. I would need to look up the specifics of when this time occurred.

rahman · 9th May 2005, 01:55 AM

The bright spots do look like pamor akhodiat -- created when the temperature during forging is 'just right'.

The photo you showed in another thread led me to believe you also have a pamor miang -- the 3D or hologram effect. Unfortunately, that didn't come out in these photos.

vinny · 9th May 2005, 07:42 AM

Rahman

It does have a what looks to me like hologram effect, but so far none of my attempts to photograph it have been successful. I was using flash and this seems to spoil the photo. I think I will need a good strong natural light.

It has to catch the light just right in one hand, and the camera steady in the other! So far I did not manage it. I will post some pictures when I have successfully captured it. I am still learning how to get the most out of my camera.

Thanks to everyone else for sharing your valuable knowledge, and pictures of your Keris.

Regards
Vinny

vinny · 10th May 2005, 07:39 AM

Hi Guys

I have managed to take more photots, but it has been difficult. I managed to run my batteries out trying to do this, and only got 2 good photos, where I had not cast a shadow by being to close, made the picture really blurred with a little wobble of of either hand, or just not photographed what I was trying to capture.

So here we go. The first photo is a close up and shows the pamor nicely, but you can't really see much of the "hologram" effect. The second photo shows the hologram effect better, and in the centre of the photo there is a bright white spot, which is where the light got it just right and glinted so nicely.

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Regards
Vinny

rahman · 10th May 2005, 02:11 PM

Vinny

Don't kill yourself trying to capture 3D images on a 2D medium

Your photos actually turned out better than mine:

You can photos of the whole keris, plus other collections, at http://www.kampungnet.com.sg You're also welcome to create your own albums in our Keris Gallery.

vinny · 11th May 2005, 03:14 PM

Pak Rahman

Thanks for the link. Some very nice Keris.

Terima kasih.

Regards
Vinny

8th May 2005, 05:49 PM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	If I'm not mistaken, the shiny silverish part is known as Pamor Akhodiat. In East Java and Madura, it's also known as Pamor Deling. As for the crystalline structures, I've seen many of those in the past. I have one, too. Attached Images Last edited by Alam Shah; 8th May 2005 at 06:00 PM.

9th May 2005, 01:55 AM	#3
rahman Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 84	The bright spots do look like pamor akhodiat -- created when the temperature during forging is 'just right'. The photo you showed in another thread led me to believe you also have a pamor miang -- the 3D or hologram effect. Unfortunately, that didn't come out in these photos. Last edited by rahman; 9th May 2005 at 03:44 AM.

10th May 2005, 07:39 AM	#5
vinny Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: England Posts: 31	more photos Hi Guys I have managed to take more photots, but it has been difficult. I managed to run my batteries out trying to do this, and only got 2 good photos, where I had not cast a shadow by being to close, made the picture really blurred with a little wobble of of either hand, or just not photographed what I was trying to capture. So here we go. The first photo is a close up and shows the pamor nicely, but you can't really see much of the "hologram" effect. The second photo shows the hologram effect better, and in the centre of the photo there is a bright white spot, which is where the light got it just right and glinted so nicely. . Regards Vinny Attached Images

8th May 2005, 06:20 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	I agree with Alam about pamor akhodiat, though it would be pretty tough to determine from the quality of the photos shown. If i am not mistaken it was forbidden for a time for keris not of the court to have gonjo with pamor. I would need to look up the specifics of when this time occurred.

9th May 2005, 07:42 AM	#4
vinny Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: England Posts: 31	Rahman It does have a what looks to me like hologram effect, but so far none of my attempts to photograph it have been successful. I was using flash and this seems to spoil the photo. I think I will need a good strong natural light. It has to catch the light just right in one hand, and the camera steady in the other! So far I did not manage it. I will post some pictures when I have successfully captured it. I am still learning how to get the most out of my camera. Thanks to everyone else for sharing your valuable knowledge, and pictures of your Keris. Regards Vinny

10th May 2005, 02:11 PM	#6
rahman Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 84	Vinny Don't kill yourself trying to capture 3D images on a 2D medium Your photos actually turned out better than mine: You can photos of the whole keris, plus other collections, at http://www.kampungnet.com.sg You're also welcome to create your own albums in our Keris Gallery.

11th May 2005, 03:14 PM	#7
vinny Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: England Posts: 31	Pak Rahman Thanks for the link. Some very nice Keris. Terima kasih. Regards Vinny