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24th July 2009, 11:08 AM
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 And the only thing standing between them and us is... is... !! Err... ¿Wilkinson? 
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24th July 2009, 09:40 PM
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OK Marc ! Have you had the Cirlot out again ???!!!  LOLCoincidentally, in recent discussion with Robert Wilkinson-Latham about the star, he noted the clarification that the symbol on the proof plug surround was not actually the six point star, but superimposed triangles. While this had to do with the Star of Solomon in that it is the same arrangement, it had more to do with the earlier symbolism representing double strength, in the sense often construed with the triangle and strength. Its always great to hear from you Marc!!! All the best, Jim |
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27th July 2009, 12:08 PM
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Is even better to have you all doing such a good work around here, Jim
And, regarding the Wilkinson symbol... he may say what he wants (and I actually happened to know that particular tidbit of information, casually... mainly from YOU mentioning it in a former discussion, by the way), but people will see a Solomon's Seal or a David's Star, there, no matter what. Which should make us wonder how far we can go regarding ciertainty when trying to extricate the meaning of a symbol appearing in an ethnographic piece from a cultural and historical context that sometimes is as alien to us as in our imagination might be good ole' Cthulhu itself... 
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27th July 2009, 05:19 PM
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Extremely well said Marc!!! That is the difficulty of studying symbolism in any case, understanding the context historically at the time the weapon or item was used. Often; "...discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen, and thinking what nobody else has thought". -Albert Szent-Gyorgy and the Cthulhu analogy is absolutely perfect! Thank you as always for the kind words, and please visit here more often OK. Your insight on the weapons we discuss is key to better understanding of them, and the knowledge you share very much part of what we are trying to accomplish. All the best, Jim |
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27th July 2009, 05:24 PM
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Actually I saw a kaskara on ebay recently with an inlaid star on the blade. It was a quite rough looking blade, not imported - more like what you might expect on an average takouba (in terms of quality).
Did anyone else see it? I saw a "bird" recently and a "crown" which might actually be a "comet"... I'm still not sure about the mysterious marking on my blade - did the arsenal at Omdurman have a marking? |
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