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22nd July 2009, 03:48 AM | #1 |
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O yes, I forgot - I doubt that the pommel is solid - it would be too heavy!
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1st August 2009, 07:46 PM | #2 |
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The Blade
I got my Kris yesterday! I will start with this Post on the blade. Forgive me if I butcher the different names of the parts, but this is my 1st genuine (I believe) Kris. I go to the Philippines at least yearly and I've seen many "tourist" Kris for sale, but this is my 1st experience holding one. I will refer to the Left and Right sides looking down towards the tip while holding it.
For those of you that want to jump ahead, I have 45 photos here: http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/aerosick/Kris/ Measurements and Details: The laminated (?) blade is a fully waved with 13 waves. Has a talisman chiseled into the blade. Total Weight of Kris and Scabbard = 2 lbs 1 oz ~ 936 grams Weight of Kris = 1 lb 5 oz ~ 595 grams Weight of Scabbard = 12 oz ~ 340 grams Overall Length = 27.625” ~ 700 mm Length of Blade = 22” ~ 560 mm Width of Blade at Balance (4.25” ~ 108 mm below Guard) = 1.4” ~ 36 mm Depth of Blade at Balance = 0.2” ~ 5 mm Hilt Length = 5.625” ~ 140 mm Width of Guard (Gangya) = 4.25” ~ 108 mm Left Side Right Side Left Top Right Top |
1st August 2009, 11:00 PM | #3 |
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Hey Billy. Nice to see you on this forum. I think you might get some more responses here.
So, have you tested the pommel material yet? Some close-ups of the hilt might be good. I also wonder if the ferrule might be suasa (a low carat gold with a lot of copper in it) instead of copper. How well does the blade fit into the scabbard? Is it well fitted around the mouth? |
2nd August 2009, 12:15 AM | #4 | |
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I have not tested the pommel material yet. I'm going slow and need to learn more about the testing. The blade fits the scabbard very well around the mouth and also at the bottom. The mouth of the scabbard where the long end of Gangya sits shows that maybe the tip of the Gangya might have broken off. I will take more photos tomorrow in good light. |
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2nd August 2009, 12:32 AM | #5 | |
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The silver and copper (my guess so far) braided wires have just a few broken spots. The copper wire is pliable. You can see the museum's tape on it. The lower tape has their record number 8642.L and the scabbard has the number 8641.L. |
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2nd August 2009, 12:48 AM | #6 |
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Older Blade
This one may have a twist core .
I believe it is likely pre 20th C. Just an observation though .... There's something funny about the tip . Possibly it has been reshaped during it's working life ? A possibility with an old blade . I don't believe that this is its first hilting . Nice . Last edited by Rick; 2nd August 2009 at 01:00 AM. |
2nd August 2009, 12:59 AM | #7 | |
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Edit: The scabbard could have been made later to fit the blade. Billy The pattern in the blade seems to follow the tip. Should the tip be more rounded as a "slasher", not a "stabbing" blade? The tip fits snug in the scabbard's hollowed out tip area. (That photo is in an earlier Post of mine) Billy Last edited by aerosick; 2nd August 2009 at 01:34 AM. |
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2nd August 2009, 01:03 AM | #8 |
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See my edit in the post above .
Here is a blade that I think may be from the same time frame as yours . http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...1/160-rb3a.jpg |
2nd August 2009, 12:51 AM | #9 |
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The Guard (Gangya)
The Gangya (guard) looks to be a separate piece, not part of the blade. It has a single clamp (baca-baca).
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