TALISMANIC KERIS?

ganjawulung · 12th July 2009, 07:06 AM

Close up of the rough motif of naga. I got this tiny 'talismanic' from Cirebon, in the north coast of eastern part of West Java. It was owned by a late "dukun" in a village. They just call this type of "jimat" (talismanic) keris, as "keris nagarunting". I don't even know the meaning of "nagarunting" (not "runcing" or sharp)..

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ganjawulung · 12th July 2009, 07:11 AM

Size comparison to a normal "naga" keris and a Madurese patrem in Yogyakartan sheath and javanese "sandang walikat"...

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VVV · 12th July 2009, 09:05 AM

Interesting thread and here is my contribution.

This keris is 31 cm in sheath and the blade is 18 cm.
It was collected outside Banjarmasin and supposed to belong to a dukun.
I don´t know where it comes from originally as it seems to be a mix of several different influences?

Michael

ganjawulung · 12th July 2009, 09:37 AM

Yes, yes, yesss. Thank you Michael Jackson (ouff.. Sorry) Michael, for your beautiful talismanic patrem... I bet you've dreamed 'talismanic dreams' on it too?

I also have, almost the same size with yours. A supposed to be "talismanic patrem" (of sempana?). Very simple garap, with good old iron... The blade is 25 cm long (the first keris in my previous post is 17,5 cm long, the blade only)...

Like the first one, this blade also smelled with specific "misik" odor. Brushed and washed it, but still smelled the same odor...

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ganjawulung · 12th July 2009, 09:40 AM

And the size comparison with the normal luk 9 keris...

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ganjawulung · 12th July 2009, 09:42 AM

The gandhik part of the second keris...

Sajen · 12th July 2009, 11:19 AM

I have two keris which you can call "talismanic patrem".
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10439
Here you can see the first.

sajen

BTW, very nice Banjarmasin keris you have there Michael!

12th July 2009, 07:06 AM	#1
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Close up of the rough motif of naga. I got this tiny 'talismanic' from Cirebon, in the north coast of eastern part of West Java. It was owned by a late "dukun" in a village. They just call this type of "jimat" (talismanic) keris, as "keris nagarunting". I don't even know the meaning of "nagarunting" (not "runcing" or sharp).. GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

12th July 2009, 07:11 AM	#2
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Size Comparison Size comparison to a normal "naga" keris and a Madurese patrem in Yogyakartan sheath and javanese "sandang walikat"... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

12th July 2009, 09:05 AM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Interesting thread and here is my contribution. This keris is 31 cm in sheath and the blade is 18 cm. It was collected outside Banjarmasin and supposed to belong to a dukun. I don´t know where it comes from originally as it seems to be a mix of several different influences? Michael Attached Images

12th July 2009, 09:37 AM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Talismanic Patrem? Yes, yes, yesss. Thank you Michael Jackson (ouff.. Sorry) Michael, for your beautiful talismanic patrem... I bet you've dreamed 'talismanic dreams' on it too? I also have, almost the same size with yours. A supposed to be "talismanic patrem" (of sempana?). Very simple garap, with good old iron... The blade is 25 cm long (the first keris in my previous post is 17,5 cm long, the blade only)... Like the first one, this blade also smelled with specific "misik" odor. Brushed and washed it, but still smelled the same odor... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

12th July 2009, 09:40 AM	#5
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Size Comparison And the size comparison with the normal luk 9 keris... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

12th July 2009, 09:42 AM	#6
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	The gandhik part of the second keris... Attached Images

12th July 2009, 11:19 AM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,207	I have two keris which you can call "talismanic patrem". http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10439 Here you can see the first. sajen BTW, very nice Banjarmasin keris you have there Michael! Last edited by Sajen; 12th July 2009 at 05:25 PM.