Iban Piso Podang (big images)

Dinggat · 22nd May 2009, 10:36 PM

Details of scabbard:

Lower third is held together by rotan strings. I presume there once was a chape of the tin (?), but it went missing and some creative Iban fixed it with rotan.

asomotif · 22nd May 2009, 11:07 PM

Nice one. The real thing !

Here are some details of my example.

Rick · 23rd May 2009, 12:22 AM

A question; what makes this Iban ?
The scabbard decoration ?
Is this sword not transplanted Batak ??

Dinggat · 23rd May 2009, 03:41 AM

Hello Rick,
this weapon was not made by the Iban, but rather owned by the Iban. Maybe the title is a bit mistakable.

Dinggat · 24th May 2009, 07:58 AM

asomotif: Your one looks almost exactly like mine! :eek Is it also from Borneo?

Do you know how the blade is fixed in the hilt? The blade of mine is very loose, but I can't pull it out completely (I only tried with slight force, don't want to break anything). Would it be wise to try to remove all the rust on my blade? Or should I just keep on oiling it?

Rick · 24th May 2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinggat

Hello Rick,
this weapon was not made by the Iban, but rather owned by the Iban. Maybe the title is a bit mistakable.

Thanks Dinggat , but what makes this particular example Iban ?
Where it was collected ?
The scabbard style or the repousse style ?

What about this sword makes it an Iban example ?

asomotif · 24th May 2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Thanks Dinggat , but what makes this particular example Iban ?
Where it was collected ?
The scabbard style or the repousse style ?

What about this sword makes it an Iban example ?

Hello Rick,

Check out the original thread. The link is at the start of this thread.
His mother is living in Sarawak and this is a family heirloom.
That definately makes it Iban.

But in general it is often the fittings on the scabbard that make it Iban.
This type of hilt is indeed seen on batak and Iban podangs , but ofcourse the hilt is not indiginous to neither of them
The blades are most of the times imported, often from Europe.

Further some say that the batak hilt have a cup that is more open , and the
Iban hilts have a cup that is more closed. But IMHO opinion one can not determin them on basis of the cup alone.

All Iban examples that I have seen have brass hilts.
Batak pieces can also have iron hilts or other metal hilts (nickel etc)

Rick · 24th May 2009, 11:45 PM

My example has an eagle head and no langets .
I wonder ..........

No scabbard but a nice non Euro blade identical to fig.433 pg. 110 in vZ's book .
I have only seen one other example of this hilt and it was broken and repaired .

22nd May 2009, 11:07 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	Nice one. The real thing ! Here are some details of my example. Attached Images Last edited by asomotif; 22nd May 2009 at 11:56 PM.

23rd May 2009, 03:41 AM	#4
Dinggat Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 29	Hello Rick, this weapon was not made by the Iban, but rather owned by the Iban. Maybe the title is a bit mistakable. Last edited by Rick; 24th May 2009 at 03:52 PM. Reason: I am always hitting edit instead of quote; my apologies

22nd May 2009, 10:36 PM	#1
Dinggat Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 29	Details of scabbard: Lower third is held together by rotan strings. I presume there once was a chape of the tin (?), but it went missing and some creative Iban fixed it with rotan.

23rd May 2009, 12:22 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	A question; what makes this Iban ? The scabbard decoration ? Is this sword not transplanted Batak ??

24th May 2009, 07:58 AM	#5
Dinggat Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 29	asomotif: Your one looks almost exactly like mine! :eek Is it also from Borneo? Do you know how the blade is fixed in the hilt? The blade of mine is very loose, but I can't pull it out completely (I only tried with slight force, don't want to break anything). Would it be wise to try to remove all the rust on my blade? Or should I just keep on oiling it?

24th May 2009, 11:45 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	My example has an eagle head and no langets . I wonder .......... No scabbard but a nice non Euro blade identical to fig.433 pg. 110 in vZ's book . I have only seen one other example of this hilt and it was broken and repaired .