A 13 C. Crusader sword from the Holy Land

cornelistromp · 26th March 2009, 11:05 PM

really Beautiful sword , and great work with the x-ray.
thank you for placing this interesting thread.
if the rust is "loose" and the sword is in a sound condition you can consider cleaning by electrolyze. (mind. it will not harm the steel but the pitting will be more obvious and the cross guard probably will come loose from the shoulder).

with a medium-strong tapering of the blade, as seen on the pictures and if the point is reinforced,of a flat diamond shaped section??, the classification can also be Oakeshott type XVI.
The date of mid 14THC matches the Pommel variation of type i.

again an amazing sword!

best regards

stekemest · 27th March 2009, 12:36 AM

Do NOT use electrolyze. It could destroy the swords's patina.
You could use a dremel/flex and a steel brush instead. That would neither hurt the metal nor the patina, but remove the rust.

Peter

migueldiaz · 27th March 2009, 06:14 AM

Amazing! Thanks for sharing the info

Oriental-Arms · 27th March 2009, 09:25 PM

The cross section of the tip is definitely not flat diamond, more probably lenticular shape, so type XII for this sword sounds possible. Furthermore, in the 14C. the Holy Land was already taken completely by the Arabs so it would be quite surprising (Although not totaly impossible) to find here a 14 C. European swordis

26th March 2009, 11:05 PM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058	really Beautiful sword , and great work with the x-ray. thank you for placing this interesting thread. if the rust is "loose" and the sword is in a sound condition you can consider cleaning by electrolyze. (mind. it will not harm the steel but the pitting will be more obvious and the cross guard probably will come loose from the shoulder). with a medium-strong tapering of the blade, as seen on the pictures and if the point is reinforced,of a flat diamond shaped section??, the classification can also be Oakeshott type XVI. The date of mid 14THC matches the Pommel variation of type i. again an amazing sword! best regards

27th March 2009, 12:36 AM	#2
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 182	Do NOT use electrolyze. It could destroy the swords's patina. You could use a dremel/flex and a steel brush instead. That would neither hurt the metal nor the patina, but remove the rust. Peter

27th March 2009, 06:14 AM	#3
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Amazing! Thanks for sharing the info

27th March 2009, 09:25 PM	#4
Oriental-Arms Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 183	The cross section of the tip is definitely not flat diamond, more probably lenticular shape, so type XII for this sword sounds possible. Furthermore, in the 14C. the Holy Land was already taken completely by the Arabs so it would be quite surprising (Although not totaly impossible) to find here a 14 C. European swordis