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11th March 2009, 11:54 AM
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Sajen> Greneng work of this blade are one of reason i take this sundang.
David> Pesi is flat,,,like golok or pedang. can u tell me why u asking that? Amuk> ceremonial, or symbol status? Moro, malay,Borneo,,,,? |
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11th March 2009, 10:05 PM
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Hello karset,
Nice catch! What are the measurements of this blade? Once again, I don't think that exiling keris sundang to the main forum does make any sense (and even less to separate Indo from Moro sundang...). It doesn't seem like the main forum will need to close down due to inactivity if all Moro kris threads move over here either - keris unite, I say!    Regards, Kai |
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11th March 2009, 10:19 PM
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Some cleaning would be helpfull.
and the pictures just a little bit sharper.  Nice blade. Can you make a picture of the top of the ganja ? |
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17th March 2009, 04:41 AM
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About the blade. I found this Karset's blade here very interesting. Especially the tail part of the blade -- I think I could not say it as 'greneng' -- really unique. A "birdlike" greneng, if we could say it. But overall, this is still a sundang -- with square tang (I choose not to say 'peksi'), and the bending straight of the blade. Typical a sundang form. And also the form of the blade's tip, in javanese (sorry again) we say it, the type of "ngudhup gambir" tip... Anyway, Karset's sundang is old and beautiful... GANJAWULUNG |
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17th March 2009, 06:44 AM
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17th March 2009, 11:11 AM
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THANKS
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17th March 2009, 12:04 PM
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malay origin(?)
The blade looks Malay with Moro influence as mentioned by Battara.. have some similarities with my sundang, (( link )). The curl at the ganja area reminds me of our forum member simatua's keris.. (( link )).
 The floral patterns, reminded me of my piece, as mentioned by Kai. Sorry, couldn't be of much help.
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17th March 2009, 01:03 PM
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To David,
No, i do not have anny examples. Of this style blade on Jawa. I do have examples for you of more bali style blades on Jawa. See Karsten Sejr Jensen Krisdisk. Since the posted Keris have a bali ukiran beside it(at least it looks like one), i wanted to put this into discusion to get info about the posibility iff it is or not. Ofcoase there is the posibility its from borneo(kalimantan) but i do have doubt about that. To Sajen, I have atleast one here. square pesi, from Yogja. regards |
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17th March 2009, 06:07 PM
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it will be interesting to see this unique form of a peksi for a javanese keris. Regards, sajen |
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17th March 2009, 07:53 PM
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 I don't have the Jensen Krisdisk yet, but i wonder if the progression isn't backwards here. Aren't Bali keris styles in essence based on Javanese keris styles? Of course they evolved over the years, but didn't many Javanese empus migrate to Bali when Islam took over that island? So i wonder what period the Javanese keris that you think have a Bali style are from. Can you post some photos? |
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