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4th February 2009, 12:27 AM
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Let's just say it is a small museum in USA.
The whole blade and handle is in very good shape, almoust no use. Looks like it was sharpened once in lifetime, no dents on the blade, so no reason for picture to fade, or distort. I'll post picture of Mary with Child that is on the other side. (When i get home) But my main point here is to figure out it's relation to Ukrainian history. First, is it real? Second, when approximately was it made? Third, where it was made? Same questins to the other sabre. I would really appreciate your taughts. By the way, i have pictures for some other beutifull pieces for discussion if you're interested. 
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4th February 2009, 01:28 AM
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More swords?
Na-a-a-a-h... too boring :-) But of course, post away! That's the whole idea! |
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4th February 2009, 01:30 AM
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4th February 2009, 01:45 AM
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Its certainly a mix of um styles. The engraved 'crest' on the blade with the horse in it is interesting. The Crown does look like the Russian Imperial crown, and the sword crossed with the arrow looks like a 'saif'. But the overall 'look' of the engraving looks like its from that part of the world, so is it an addition or original to the blade? |
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4th February 2009, 03:06 AM
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OK, here is other side of the blade
http://picasaweb.google.com/yura.sor...90951982181378 And the bigger album - http://picasaweb.google.com/yura.soroka/KozakCossack# See yourself, what do like...to talk about. I have few more pics on my home comp. |
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4th February 2009, 03:32 AM
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The picture of the Virgin looks like a Russian orthodox representation.
Interesting it has the flower like this one:  'Virgin Mary in Blue/Fragrant Flower The icon depicts the Child seated on the Virgin Mary’s left arm and a stalk of a white lily in her right hand. The icon was kept in the Pokrov Monastery of Voronezh. The flower is symbolic of the unfading bloom of virginity. ' Damn! you've got some nice weapons in those pictures! 
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4th February 2009, 03:38 AM
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Why Russian?
Christian tradition of Moscovia 300 years ago (Russia now) coming out from Kyivska Rus' - current Ukraine. |
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4th February 2009, 03:42 AM
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And yes, thank you, Atlantia.
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4th February 2009, 04:02 AM
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Its an orthodox Christian image. I guess a way to possibly pin it geographically is by the other elements of the horse crest/coat or arms? The crossed sword and arrow is distinctlive. Apart from that. The crown looks like the Russian one, the silverwork looks like that on 'cossak' belts, the icon is an Orthodox one. Seems like its been in 'that' area. Remounted captured or imported weapon? |
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4th February 2009, 08:00 PM
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From the album #7 has an inscription in square kufic script and #17 is a royal signature, probably 19th century. rand |
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5th February 2009, 01:52 AM
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Rand,
Any idea what that seal means? |
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8th February 2009, 12:38 AM
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Saif?
Hi all, I have nothing of value to say, but some pics to contribute. This is a similar sword to the one being discussed, so I thought it may be of interest to other contributors. Best regards to all,
Brian |
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