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Old 27th January 2009, 07:51 PM   #1
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Yesterday, I attended an auction and bought this keris. According to the auctioneer it comes from South-Sumatra. In my opinion it's a Bugis style keris.

It has a plain wooden sheath and a 7 luk blade showing pamor. Total length is 41 cm. The blade itself measures 26,2 cm.

What intrigues me with this piece is the hilt. It is beautifully carved and has a more slender shape then I'm used to see with Bugis kerises. Anyway, my other Bugis pieces have a more robust hilt.

Can anyone else enlighten me ? Dapur ? Pamor ? Origin of this keris ?







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Old 27th January 2009, 09:48 PM   #2
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A very nice, imo, old bugis keris. But... please... move the beautiful hit for 180°.
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Old 27th January 2009, 10:15 PM   #3
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A very nice, imo, old bugis keris. But... please... move the beautiful hit for 180°.
Well Marco, we've had quite a bit of discussion on this point with Bugis style hilts so i just gotta ask. Freddy, is the hilt fixed in this position or can you easily move it?
Oh, and i concur. Nice keris! It certainly is a Bugis influenced blade. I also have not seen this style hilt in this form so perhaps it is South Sumatran, though i don't think Palembang.
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Old 28th January 2009, 06:08 PM   #4
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I can get some movement in the hilt. But it sits comfortable in the hand in the way it is.

I believe it is fixed to the blade by using some kind of brown paste (?).

I don't know if you noticed, but it has a beautiful mendak (selut ?). Here's a pic :

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Old 28th January 2009, 06:36 PM   #5
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Here's a better pic of the handle :

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Old 28th January 2009, 09:15 PM   #6
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A very beautifull hilt Freddy.

Nice buy. I thought you stopped collecting keris

Blade seems very obviously bugis to me.
It wurprises me that nobody stummbled in giving more details on the hilt, because very often they seem to have either malay or sumatra influences.
On which I have absolutely no knowledge by the way.
Just can see that his hilt is pleasing to the eye
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Old 28th January 2009, 09:21 PM   #7
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Yep, the keris bug is back again
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Old 29th January 2009, 12:14 PM   #8
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G'day Freddy,
A lovely piece, a gorgeous hilt
If piece flys, please contact :

Cheers,

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Old 29th January 2009, 03:01 PM   #9
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Very unusual hilt form. Juz when you think we have seen most of it...

It reminds me of the 'kakatua' headed hilt forms we've seen on some Sumatran Bugis keris, but this one is really different.
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Old 29th January 2009, 03:17 PM   #10
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Yes, my piece seems to have a small crest. Is this so unusual for this type of hilt ?

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Old 29th January 2009, 04:19 PM   #11
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Beautiful.

I would leave the hilt as it is as there is surely a method to that madness so to speak.

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