Some other miniature stuff

Montino Bourbon · 18th April 2005, 05:09 AM

Here's a small Bugis keris that I found in a shop near here; it seems to have pamor wengkon. I would like to know if this is a 'patrem' or something else; any comments?

tom hyle · 18th April 2005, 09:01 AM

Yeah, Nosmo; I already knew that 3 was 1/2 of 6, but the picture clarifies a little, mainly about the smallness of the handle; more clarity would be to picture it next to a small adult human hand or a working puuko; this is a common using size of knife, in worldwide terms. That does not, of course, address itself to any particular cultural info. that may be available, but is, I think, an important point of division from what I'd call an actual miniature. Were it in the shape of a longsword that might make it a miniature at this size, or a knife version, much depending on the handle, I should think; this is not in the shape of a longsword though, but of a knife/dagger. There seems to be a longstanding tradition of miniature gunongs, BTW.

18th April 2005, 05:09 AM	#1
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	Small Bugis keris Here's a small Bugis keris that I found in a shop near here; it seems to have pamor wengkon. I would like to know if this is a 'patrem' or something else; any comments? Attached Images

18th April 2005, 09:01 AM	#2
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Yeah, Nosmo; I already knew that 3 was 1/2 of 6, but the picture clarifies a little, mainly about the smallness of the handle; more clarity would be to picture it next to a small adult human hand or a working puuko; this is a common using size of knife, in worldwide terms. That does not, of course, address itself to any particular cultural info. that may be available, but is, I think, an important point of division from what I'd call an actual miniature. Were it in the shape of a longsword that might make it a miniature at this size, or a knife version, much depending on the handle, I should think; this is not in the shape of a longsword though, but of a knife/dagger. There seems to be a longstanding tradition of miniature gunongs, BTW.