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Old 14th January 2009, 03:20 PM   #1
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Here are closeups of the helmet. The brim / lip is riveted to the dome, the distance from each rivet is 0.5 - 0.75" apart. The edge of the brim/lip is reinforced. The top of the dome is capped with a heavier gauge brass plate and topped with a solid brass finial.

Maurice, I recall seeing that helmet on Arjan's website. I searched his "item's sold" section, but was not able to locate it. I think there was also one for sale at Ashoka's at one time.

Rick, Copper / brass, a straight good whack maybe not, but I would say it would provide a good deflect.

Bill, your armor is a beauty.

The last photo of the helmet is from A. Van Z's book.

Well the close-ups show the quality of the construction. Its more complex than the simple pieces I mentioned.
Of course the fact that its near identical to the B/W shot is a clincher anyway! Good find!
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Old 14th January 2009, 05:40 PM   #2
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Old 17th January 2009, 03:37 AM   #3
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Here is an interesting photo.

"They where indeed from the Moluccas but also in use by the guards from the Sultan from Celebes.

The origin is still unknown till today but most likely they are copied after given or traded models from the 17th century."


Courtesy of Arjan, and Many thanks!
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Old 18th January 2009, 04:41 PM   #4
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A collector friend of mine wrote an article in the Swedish (actually Scanian) Arms Collector Magazine about those, East Indonesian, helmets in February 1989. There were two major kinds; the heavier (about 2 kg) European kind made of iron and the lighter (about 1 kg) domestic kind made of thin brass.
According to his research they origin from the early contacts with the Portugese around 1550 in Ternate (West of Halmahera). The holes in the front are to attach bird feathers and the domestic helmets never had cushions as they wore them on top of headscarves. The helmets found in North Sulawesi were imported from Ternate around 1650 after a cultural exchange between the local chieftains and the sultan of Ternate, as well as the Dutch local governor. They were used as regalia carried by the local guards.

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Old 16th October 2014, 03:15 PM   #5
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A collector friend of mine wrote an article in the Swedish (actually Scanian) Arms Collector Magazine about those, East Indonesian, helmets in February 1989. There were two major kinds; the heavier (about 2 kg) European kind made of iron and the lighter (about 1 kg) domestic kind made of thin brass.
According to his research they origin from the early contacts with the Portugese around 1550 in Ternate (West of Halmahera). The holes in the front are to attach bird feathers and the domestic helmets never had cushions as they wore them on top of headscarves. The helmets found in North Sulawesi were imported from Ternate around 1650 after a cultural exchange between the local chieftains and the sultan of Ternate, as well as the Dutch local governor. They were used as regalia carried by the local guards.

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Michael,
any chance of getting the bibliographical data of this article? Or even to get a copy? I'm intested in all kinds of literature of Moro armour.
Thanks a lot

Udo
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