A Banjarmasin keris

tunggulametung · 14th December 2008, 04:34 PM

BluErf,

You must be traveling a lot for your collection or is it a lot of keris traveling to your collection?

If the second is the case, please share the charm/spell

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Can we please see the pesi when possible?

BluErf · 17th December 2008, 03:09 PM

Hi all,

Sorry, was busy for past few days. Ok, I've got the pic here. Pardon me - I didn't unwrap the nylon thread around the peksi because I thought it was rather well-done and packed-in to try to unravel.

Anyhow, you can see the base and the tip, and get an idea of how tall and thin it is. The nylon thread is quite thick.

The keris blade is 11.7in, which makes it more or less the same size as a standard Bugis keris. The peksi is more than 2in tall.

To Tunggulametung - I haven't been travelling much.

But I don't know any useful spells too...

maybe it is because of a great keris that I "sacrificed" recently that brought these other rare kerises to me...

Alam Shah · 18th December 2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

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maybe it is because of a great keris that I "sacrificed" recently that brought these other rare kerises to me...

Perhaps that's it.. However, I've seen, held and inspected your "sacrificed" piece.. a great sacrifice indeed..

. I'm glad it went to a friend, so that I can perform a yearly visit to see and drool on it.

Beautiful craftsmanship by a master craftsman.

mykeris · 18th December 2008, 10:38 PM

Hi, Alan , agreed with you. Most Banjarmasin hilts were decorated with Yakut stones and not Intan unless redressed. I have a few so called old intan hilts but proven as non-intan when identified using a diamond tester. All these Yakut stones are actually soft with measurement of 4 to 5 on diamond scale. Intan or Diamond shares the same hardness that is more than 9. Bluerf, pls get your intan hilts tested for assurance!

David · 19th December 2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mykeris

All these Yakut stones are actually soft with measurement of 4 to 5 on diamond scale.

Well, if Yakut=rock crystal=quartz crystal it should read 7 on the Mohs scale (i assume that this is what you mean by diamond scale. Mohs is the standard scale for mineral hardness). Flourite would be a 4, apatite is 5. Both these stones are perhaps too soft for this purpose.

BluErf · 19th December 2008, 01:44 PM

Well, if intan refers to rose-cut diamonds, which are not low grade, I don't really need to test my hilt, coz for the price I paid, they can't be diamonds, or someone some where has lost a big bundle selling the keris!

I'm pretty happy going with the idea that the stones are yakut. I still love the keris!

A. G. Maisey · 19th December 2008, 08:51 PM

Not necessarily low grade, Kai Wee.

They might be of incredibly low grade; they might also be perfect blue whites.

But with the rose cut, they become "intan".

17th December 2008, 03:09 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi all, Sorry, was busy for past few days. Ok, I've got the pic here. Pardon me - I didn't unwrap the nylon thread around the peksi because I thought it was rather well-done and packed-in to try to unravel. Anyhow, you can see the base and the tip, and get an idea of how tall and thin it is. The nylon thread is quite thick. The keris blade is 11.7in, which makes it more or less the same size as a standard Bugis keris. The peksi is more than 2in tall. To Tunggulametung - I haven't been travelling much. But I don't know any useful spells too... maybe it is because of a great keris that I "sacrificed" recently that brought these other rare kerises to me... Attached Images

14th December 2008, 04:34 PM	#1
tunggulametung Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 238	BluErf, You must be traveling a lot for your collection or is it a lot of keris traveling to your collection? If the second is the case, please share the charm/spell . Can we please see the pesi when possible?

18th December 2008, 10:38 PM	#4
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Hi, Alan , agreed with you. Most Banjarmasin hilts were decorated with Yakut stones and not Intan unless redressed. I have a few so called old intan hilts but proven as non-intan when identified using a diamond tester. All these Yakut stones are actually soft with measurement of 4 to 5 on diamond scale. Intan or Diamond shares the same hardness that is more than 9. Bluerf, pls get your intan hilts tested for assurance!

19th December 2008, 01:44 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Well, if intan refers to rose-cut diamonds, which are not low grade, I don't really need to test my hilt, coz for the price I paid, they can't be diamonds, or someone some where has lost a big bundle selling the keris! I'm pretty happy going with the idea that the stones are yakut. I still love the keris!

19th December 2008, 08:51 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Not necessarily low grade, Kai Wee. They might be of incredibly low grade; they might also be perfect blue whites. But with the rose cut, they become "intan".