16th and 17th century gun screws

Matchlock · 4th December 2008, 12:14 PM

Richard,

I took these photos some 20 years ago. Were they new I would have considered the forum community and given the description in English.

These screws are now back in their guns and I cannot tell whether one of them is left hand threaded. Sorry about that.

Michael

Pukka Bundook · 4th December 2008, 02:55 PM

No bother about left hand thread, Michael, it just surprises me that more are not found that way, as it's just as easy to file them up either way.

Also, don't worry about the text in German, it's quite easy to "get the drift' of what it says!

Cheers,

R.

Matchlock · 4th December 2008, 09:34 PM

Gettin' the drift - that's exactly what I was hopin' for, Richard!

m

Matchlock · 29th March 2009, 06:19 PM

I have been thinking about a thread on 500 years of development of screws in European fine mechanics and posted a few pictures some months ago. I need to take more and better pictures but it is not forgotten.

Thank you so much, Jim and Richard,

Michael

Jim McDougall · 29th March 2009, 07:45 PM

Yay Michael!!! There it is,
Thank you, what a memory I got

All best,
Jim

Matchlock · 30th March 2009, 12:11 AM

Sure, boss,

I did realize that!, no doubt

Michael

SchildaBrit · 1st January 2020, 07:50 PM

Forum members will please forgive me for warming up a very old thread. But first of all, my thanks to Pukka Bundook for directing me to thisforum, and many thanks (alas, posthumously!) to Michael "matchlock" for his contributions, the like of which I have found nowhere else.

I have long been frustrated by the standard works on old firearms, which tend to give great space to stylistic elements of decoration, and very little information on technical development. Hayward, Hoff, Lenk and Luegs - I have them all. And the examples presented in these books are items that one is unlikely ever to get one's paws on, much less be permitted to dismantle!

In short, they are not much use to anyone who wants to know how these ancient pieces were constructed, as opposed to decorated, and of zero use to anyone, such as my self, who is interested in actually shooting old firearms.

As my first small contribution to the somewhat sparse knowledge of the internal technology of old firearms I would therefore like to present a screw. Not a glorious example of classical decoration that is utterly irrelevant for the functioning of a gun, but a vital piece to hold it together!

Here is it (if I can manage to post fotos):

OK stop here for the moment. I now have to learn how to post fotos. Will be back soon - I hope!

29th March 2009, 06:19 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	I have been thinking about a thread on 500 years of development of screws in European fine mechanics and posted a few pictures some months ago. I need to take more and better pictures but it is not forgotten. Thank you so much, Jim and Richard, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 30th March 2009 at 12:10 AM.

1st January 2020, 07:50 PM	#7
SchildaBrit Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 33	A "new" screw discovered Forum members will please forgive me for warming up a very old thread. But first of all, my thanks to Pukka Bundook for directing me to thisforum, and many thanks (alas, posthumously!) to Michael "matchlock" for his contributions, the like of which I have found nowhere else. I have long been frustrated by the standard works on old firearms, which tend to give great space to stylistic elements of decoration, and very little information on technical development. Hayward, Hoff, Lenk and Luegs - I have them all. And the examples presented in these books are items that one is unlikely ever to get one's paws on, much less be permitted to dismantle! In short, they are not much use to anyone who wants to know how these ancient pieces were constructed, as opposed to decorated, and of zero use to anyone, such as my self, who is interested in actually shooting old firearms. As my first small contribution to the somewhat sparse knowledge of the internal technology of old firearms I would therefore like to present a screw. Not a glorious example of classical decoration that is utterly irrelevant for the functioning of a gun, but a vital piece to hold it together! Here is it (if I can manage to post fotos): OK stop here for the moment. I now have to learn how to post fotos. Will be back soon - I hope!

4th December 2008, 12:14 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Richard, I took these photos some 20 years ago. Were they new I would have considered the forum community and given the description in English. These screws are now back in their guns and I cannot tell whether one of them is left hand threaded. Sorry about that. Michael

4th December 2008, 02:55 PM	#2
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	No bother about left hand thread, Michael, it just surprises me that more are not found that way, as it's just as easy to file them up either way. Also, don't worry about the text in German, it's quite easy to "get the drift' of what it says! Cheers, R.

4th December 2008, 09:34 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Gettin' the drift - that's exactly what I was hopin' for, Richard! m

29th March 2009, 07:45 PM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	Yay Michael!!! There it is, Thank you, what a memory I got All best, Jim

30th March 2009, 12:11 AM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Sure, boss, I did realize that!, no doubt Michael