19th century fencing foils

William V. · 27th November 2008, 02:40 PM

Hello @ all

Sorry for not posting earlier... my job got the better of me

@Fernando:
The 5 indicates indeed the lenght of the weapon (normally "5" was 88 cm), the blade was forged in Solingen most probably by the Weyersberg company (before 1883). I suppose that the "Bedel" is the seller of the weapon and the word (as already said) "acier" meaning "steel", is a kind of proofmark that the metal is truly steel. The fact that "acier" is french for "steel" implies that Bedel is a french distributor (by chance I stumbled across 2 other weapons located in France with the same marking, which speaks for this hypothesis).
The "VjB" is probably the full name of the seller, the last letter standing for "Bedel".
The only thing irritating me is the strange king's head, he looks quite different to the original:
http://www.wkc-solingen.de/ueberuns/index.html

Do you mind posting a high-resolution picture of the head only?
Another interesting point is the question why a french distributor should sell german blades? They had Klingenthal and Chatterault around the corner

Regarding the other weapon:
Are there any other markings on the blade except the "ASolingen"?
The way I see it the "A" is the french for "at" Solingen. Indicating that the blade was forged at Solingen. This would show that the blade was for the foreign market.

@Broadaxe:

WOW

I knew the page of Mr Castanet but am truly amazed by the material he has there. Perhaps I should plan a short trip to Paris

Really nice pictures.

So far and all the best

William

27th November 2008, 02:40 PM	#19
William V. Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 33	Hello @ all Sorry for not posting earlier... my job got the better of me @Fernando: The 5 indicates indeed the lenght of the weapon (normally "5" was 88 cm), the blade was forged in Solingen most probably by the Weyersberg company (before 1883). I suppose that the "Bedel" is the seller of the weapon and the word (as already said) "acier" meaning "steel", is a kind of proofmark that the metal is truly steel. The fact that "acier" is french for "steel" implies that Bedel is a french distributor (by chance I stumbled across 2 other weapons located in France with the same marking, which speaks for this hypothesis). The "VjB" is probably the full name of the seller, the last letter standing for "Bedel". The only thing irritating me is the strange king's head, he looks quite different to the original: http://www.wkc-solingen.de/ueberuns/index.html Do you mind posting a high-resolution picture of the head only? Another interesting point is the question why a french distributor should sell german blades? They had Klingenthal and Chatterault around the corner Regarding the other weapon: Are there any other markings on the blade except the "ASolingen"? The way I see it the "A" is the french for "at" Solingen. Indicating that the blade was forged at Solingen. This would show that the blade was for the foreign market. @Broadaxe: WOW I knew the page of Mr Castanet but am truly amazed by the material he has there. Perhaps I should plan a short trip to Paris Really nice pictures. So far and all the best William