keris blade for comment.

BSMStar · 13th April 2005, 12:48 PM

Hey Smashy,

Thanks for the info... I only hope my venture looks half as good as yours!

tom hyle · 13th April 2005, 02:14 PM

Yeah, you really shouldn't breathe any of these cleaning solutions; in a closed room you can get drunk on isopropyl fumes real fast, and you know that's not good for you. More expensive, but I don't think there's any reason pure grain alcohol shouln't be similar, and not as bad for you, but ventilation is the main thing; I like to do things anywhere between a room with open windows to outside, depending on toxicity, etc.

Rick · 13th April 2005, 02:47 PM

If you want to use a glass vessel which makes it easy to watch the process in action for better control try a Florists shop ; they most always have very tall ,reasonably inexpensive tapered glass vases . My example is 22.5" tall X 4.25" at the opening .

There's also the PVC pipe route but it offers no visibility while etching .

BSMStar · 13th April 2005, 08:50 PM

Rick,

After hobnobbing with my fellow wizards... hmmm, I mean chemist (sorry, that was the Wizard of Oz coming out):

Wash the blade in a solution of TSP (Trisodium Phosphate), and rinse well with water. Dry. Then use either VM&P Naphtha (faster evaporating) or Mineral Spirits (slower evaporating) to solvent wash/soak the blade. Do not substitute charcoal lighter fluid (it is usually Mineral Spirits with contaminates that prevent it from being used as Mineral Spirits). Be aware that both solvents are flamable, do not use near sparks or open flame. Use outdoors with plenty of ventilation!

TSP (Trisodium Phosphate), a detergent.

VM & P Naphtha - A fast evaporating, clear, colorless aliphatic hydrocarbon solvent. Used primarily to thin exterior or interior oil based paints, varnishes and enamels for spray applications where mineral spirits drying time is to slow.

Mineral Spirits - A thinner for oil based paints, enamels, varnishes, stains, etc. Ideal for cleaning brushes or rollers. An excellent solvent for oil, grease, tar and wax.

All of these are available in a hardware store.

Rick · 13th April 2005, 09:32 PM

Wayne,
You mean I'm not in Kansas anymore ?

You know TSP had entirely slipped my mind and I used to paint houses , what can I say but DOH !!

Thanks for the jog .

BSMStar · 13th April 2005, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Wayne,
You mean I'm not in Kansas anymore ?

You aren't??? You never told me you moved? Or did they move Kansas again?

(Even though I can see alot of gulls here from time to time, I think you are a little closer to the beach than I am... its a loooong drive for me to see the big pond.)

Rick · 13th April 2005, 11:47 PM

Wayne , I am IN the ocean

, as far east as you can get in MA .

13th April 2005, 02:47 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Great Etching/Soaking Containers . If you want to use a glass vessel which makes it easy to watch the process in action for better control try a Florists shop ; they most always have very tall ,reasonably inexpensive tapered glass vases . My example is 22.5" tall X 4.25" at the opening . There's also the PVC pipe route but it offers no visibility while etching .

13th April 2005, 08:50 PM	#4
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Rick, After hobnobbing with my fellow wizards... hmmm, I mean chemist (sorry, that was the Wizard of Oz coming out): Wash the blade in a solution of TSP (Trisodium Phosphate), and rinse well with water. Dry. Then use either VM&P Naphtha (faster evaporating) or Mineral Spirits (slower evaporating) to solvent wash/soak the blade. Do not substitute charcoal lighter fluid (it is usually Mineral Spirits with contaminates that prevent it from being used as Mineral Spirits). Be aware that both solvents are flamable, do not use near sparks or open flame. Use outdoors with plenty of ventilation! TSP (Trisodium Phosphate), a detergent. VM & P Naphtha - A fast evaporating, clear, colorless aliphatic hydrocarbon solvent. Used primarily to thin exterior or interior oil based paints, varnishes and enamels for spray applications where mineral spirits drying time is to slow. Mineral Spirits - A thinner for oil based paints, enamels, varnishes, stains, etc. Ideal for cleaning brushes or rollers. An excellent solvent for oil, grease, tar and wax. All of these are available in a hardware store. Last edited by BSMStar; 13th April 2005 at 09:04 PM.

13th April 2005, 12:48 PM	#1
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Hey Smashy, Thanks for the info... I only hope my venture looks half as good as yours!

13th April 2005, 02:14 PM	#2
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Yeah, you really shouldn't breathe any of these cleaning solutions; in a closed room you can get drunk on isopropyl fumes real fast, and you know that's not good for you. More expensive, but I don't think there's any reason pure grain alcohol shouln't be similar, and not as bad for you, but ventilation is the main thing; I like to do things anywhere between a room with open windows to outside, depending on toxicity, etc.

13th April 2005, 09:32 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Wayne, You mean I'm not in Kansas anymore ? You know TSP had entirely slipped my mind and I used to paint houses , what can I say but DOH !! Thanks for the jog .

13th April 2005, 11:47 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Wayne , I am IN the ocean , as far east as you can get in MA .