New Balkan Yataghan - need translation help!

Battara · 14th November 2008, 10:59 PM

K Pasta, Dudes and Dudettes?

Just got this Balkan yataghan from Oriental-Arms. The hilt is silver and the scabbard is white metal. The blade has a maker's mark and some silver and gold koftgari script. What does that script say?

Thanks

Dom · 16th November 2008, 12:05 AM

the scrip "could" said ;

made by Mohamed Aghra owner (? friend) Malek Ahmed Aghra

I wrote "could" because the word "saheb" could be translated as well as "friend" or "owner"

nice yatagan, bravo

à +

Dom

Battara · 16th November 2008, 02:07 AM

Many thanks Dom.

Gonzalo G · 17th November 2008, 02:36 AM

!Wow! What a great piece, Battara. I love yataghans. I even use it´s name as a nick on some forums. My deep congratulations, and I prey you will post a good dozen pictures of it, at least. Do I see some drawing under the decorated part of the blade?
Regards

Gonzalo

Lew · 17th November 2008, 03:34 AM

Battara

That is a super sweet sword

Congrats

Lew

Zifir · 17th November 2008, 09:35 PM

In the hope that Dom does not get annoyed with me, I want to add a few things to translation as a Turkish speaker.

The inscription is:

Amel-i Muhammed Ağa sahib ü malik Ahmed Ağa 1211

Work of Muhammed Agha, Owner Ahmed Agha H. 1211 (1796/97 AD)

Dom · 17th November 2008, 11:34 PM

Zifir

it's a REAL pleasure when you feel that you'r not alone to get headache,
and some one is backing you

I'M SERIOUS,
no competition between us,
just complementarity for the benefit of our fraternity
at least, it is like that I understand my action here

but definitively,
I'm a damned stupid to have forget to translate the easiest part

thanks to have corrected that mess, because,
datation is too rare, and too much important ..

all the best

à +

Dom
(who will be in a 3 weeks time in Istanbul ..
Inch'Allah for a week,
and Damascus 2 weeks before)

CharlesS · 18th November 2008, 12:50 AM

Nice Battara!! I know this has been on the ole want list for a long time...now I know mine is a little safer!!

TVV · 18th November 2008, 12:56 AM

Simply marvelous, Battara! I second Gonzalo's motion about posting plenty of pictures here once it arrives.
Regards,
Teodor

14th November 2008, 10:59 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	New Balkan Yataghan - need translation help! K Pasta, Dudes and Dudettes? Just got this Balkan yataghan from Oriental-Arms. The hilt is silver and the scabbard is white metal. The blade has a maker's mark and some silver and gold koftgari script. What does that script say? Thanks Attached Images

16th November 2008, 12:05 AM	#2
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	the scrip "could" said ; made by Mohamed Aghra owner (? friend) Malek Ahmed Aghra I wrote "could" because the word "saheb" could be translated as well as "friend" or "owner" nice yatagan, bravo à + Dom Attached Images

16th November 2008, 02:07 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Many thanks Dom.

17th November 2008, 02:36 AM	#4
Gonzalo G Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nothern Mexico Posts: 458	!Wow! What a great piece, Battara. I love yataghans. I even use it´s name as a nick on some forums. My deep congratulations, and I prey you will post a good dozen pictures of it, at least. Do I see some drawing under the decorated part of the blade? Regards Gonzalo

17th November 2008, 03:34 AM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Battara That is a super sweet sword Congrats Lew

17th November 2008, 09:35 PM	#6
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	In the hope that Dom does not get annoyed with me, I want to add a few things to translation as a Turkish speaker. The inscription is: Amel-i Muhammed Ağa sahib ü malik Ahmed Ağa 1211 Work of Muhammed Agha, Owner Ahmed Agha H. 1211 (1796/97 AD)

17th November 2008, 11:34 PM	#7
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Zifir it's a REAL pleasure when you feel that you'r not alone to get headache, and some one is backing you I'M SERIOUS, no competition between us, just complementarity for the benefit of our fraternity at least, it is like that I understand my action here but definitively, I'm a damned stupid to have forget to translate the easiest part thanks to have corrected that mess, because, datation is too rare, and too much important .. all the best à + Dom (who will be in a 3 weeks time in Istanbul .. Inch'Allah for a week, and Damascus 2 weeks before)

18th November 2008, 12:50 AM	#8
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Nice Battara!! I know this has been on the ole want list for a long time...now I know mine is a little safer!!

18th November 2008, 12:56 AM	#9
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,663	Simply marvelous, Battara! I second Gonzalo's motion about posting plenty of pictures here once it arrives. Regards, Teodor