Mexican Presentation Sword?

[ausjulius]

it is a typical machete sword from mexico.
this style is quite common , recently ive seen quite alot of older versions being sold on ebay..

typicaly the blade has a pointed tip and is sharp for about 20cm along the back of the edge, the swords come in sheaths in the style of a machete not in a typical sword sheath.

yours would have to be dated as a product of the last 70 years.. older ones are not normaly saying mad in mexico..and the etching it ushaly of a different style

[Rick]

There is , I believe, an ersatz rendition of an Early machete with a very similar blade profile to the original subject post that has been making the rounds (unsuccessfully) on our favorite (?) auction site .

That particular one implies a Cuban provenance .

[Gonzalo G]

Originally Posted by ausjulius

it is a typical machete sword from mexico.
this style is quite common , recently ive seen quite alot of older versions being sold on ebay..

typicaly the blade has a pointed tip and is sharp for about 20cm along the back of the edge, the swords come in sheaths in the style of a machete not in a typical sword sheath.

yours would have to be dated as a product of the last 70 years.. older ones are not normaly saying mad in mexico..and the etching it ushaly of a different style

Yes, it is a typical machete from México. The blade very probably came from a common machete known as "acapulqueño" (from the port of Acapulco, on the State of Guerrero coast), even from a Collins machete like the one shown above. Those blades are remounted like kronckew´s, in the old mexican fashion. A tourist item, since the old fighting machetes mounted like this were slender. And not expensive. The tip of the original machete is just like this, and not pointed. It is used traditionally on the sugar cane cutting labour. The design originally is not mexican. It was adopted because it permits a long life throught continous re-sharpening, and the balance helps in cutting several sugar canes with one stroke. I don´t think the mounting has any silver, though the real old mountings used to have it. Those are naive style horses. We don´t have llamas.
Regards

Gonzalo

[celtan]

Naive horses? And you can ID them by appearance?


I wonder how the racy, world-savvy type then look. Red Horse-shoes with tall heels?



Just Kidding Gonzalo, couldn't help myself.

Interesting the note on the reasons behind the rounded blade...

Best regards & Saludos.



Manolo

Originally Posted by Gonzalo G

Yes, it is a typical machete from México. The blade very probably came from a common machete known as "acapulqueño" (from the port of Acapulco, on the State of Guerrero coast), even from a Collins machete like the one shown above. Those blades are remounted like kronckew´s, in the old mexican fashion. A tourist item, since the old fighting machetes mounted like this were slender. And not expensive. The tip of the original machete is just like this, and not pointed. It is used traditionally on the sugar cane cutting labour. The design originally is not mexican. It was adopted because it permits a long life throught continous re-sharpening, and the balance helps in cutting several sugar canes with one stroke. I don´t think the mounting has any silver, though the real old mountings used to have it. Those are naive style horses. We don´t have llamas.
Regards

Gonzalo

[Gonzalo G]

Manolo, the naive or naif movement in painting (please see the Naive School in the history of art), used to represent figures in a very simple manner, almosto childish, just like on the popular art. The use of the colors was also very simple. The most known painter in this movement was el Aduanero Rousseau (Henri Rousseau). That´s what I meant with "naive horses".
Un abrazo, amigo.

Gonzalo

[celtan]

Good answer!

To me, they just look native, but its probably because of my artistically untrained eye. Or it might be cuz' I'm tres naif myself.

Tomate una cerveza fria a mi nombre!

: )

Manolo

Originally Posted by Gonzalo G

Manolo, the naive or naif movement in painting (please see the Naive School in the history of art), used to represent figures in a very simple manner, almosto childish, just like on the popular art. The use of the colors was also very simple. The most known painter in this movement was el Aduanero Rousseau (Henri Rousseau). That´s what I meant with "naive horses".
Un abrazo, amigo.

Gonzalo

[kronckew]

horsey motif's appear to fairly common decorations, as in this punal which i feel may be Brazilian.


there are also silhouettes of 'naive' horses and cattle etched on the blade.

[celtan]

Actually, horses and their images were very common motifs in very early galician-spanish lore, weapons and shields. The old celtic religions in Galicia had a horse goddess named Epona, or something similar.

Best

M

Originally Posted by kronckew

horsey motif's appear to fairly common decorations, as in this punal which i feel may be Brazilian.


there are also silhouettes of 'naive' horses and cattle etched on the blade.