Tegha or similar ?

bhushan_lawate · 4th November 2008, 05:12 AM

Hi all,

I do not have the snaps of this sword available with me however i'll be visiting the Angre Descendants in the beginning of 2009. I'll post a few snaps post my visit to the Angre house along with a few other swords from my collection.

regards,
Bhushan

Norman McCormick · 5th November 2008, 07:41 PM

Hi All,
I've noticed that the guard has remnants of black paint, or a similar substance, adhering to the inside. I know that the cutlasses issued to the British Navy in the 18/19th Cent. had their hilts painted if they were made of steel rather than brass, an attempt at keeping salt water corrosion at bay. I just wondered if there maybe similarities here. Of course some infantry/cavalry helmets and breastplates were painted black for a similar reason so ?????
I too would really be interested in seeing photographs of the sword that belonged to Admiral Angre.
My thanks to those who have taken an interest.
Regards,
Norman.

TVV · 5th November 2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi All,
I've noticed that the guard has remnants of black paint, or a similar substance, adhering to the inside. I know that the cutlasses issued to the British Navy in the 18/19th Cent. had their hilts painted if they were made of steel rather than brass, an attempt at keeping salt water corrosion at bay. I just wondered if there maybe similarities here. Of course some infantry/cavalry helmets and breastplates were painted black for a similar reason so ?????

I thought hilts of this type had a padded cushion wrapped around the grip.

Jim McDougall · 5th November 2008, 08:16 PM

Excellent observation Norman ,on the traces of black paint on the hilt, which does seem to suggest some sort of 'japanning' or black varnish as often used on iron hilts with naval connotation. It is interesting though that in the case of Scottish basket hilts of the 18th century particularly, these too were often japanned or russetted to prevent rust or corrosion in the typically damp climate in much of the Highlands.

Teodor, you're right on the usual presence of a pad inside the Hindu basket hilt, typically on the fully dressed examples. Incidentally, 18th century British basket hilts, including Scottish usually seem to have a padded hilt liner as well. As may be expected, these perishable elements usually do not survive, but in rare exceptions.

All best regards,
Jim

4th November 2008, 05:12 AM	#1
bhushan_lawate Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: India Posts: 77	Hi all, I do not have the snaps of this sword available with me however i'll be visiting the Angre Descendants in the beginning of 2009. I'll post a few snaps post my visit to the Angre house along with a few other swords from my collection. regards, Bhushan

5th November 2008, 07:41 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	Hi All, I've noticed that the guard has remnants of black paint, or a similar substance, adhering to the inside. I know that the cutlasses issued to the British Navy in the 18/19th Cent. had their hilts painted if they were made of steel rather than brass, an attempt at keeping salt water corrosion at bay. I just wondered if there maybe similarities here. Of course some infantry/cavalry helmets and breastplates were painted black for a similar reason so ????? I too would really be interested in seeing photographs of the sword that belonged to Admiral Angre. My thanks to those who have taken an interest. Regards, Norman.

5th November 2008, 08:16 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,282	Excellent observation Norman ,on the traces of black paint on the hilt, which does seem to suggest some sort of 'japanning' or black varnish as often used on iron hilts with naval connotation. It is interesting though that in the case of Scottish basket hilts of the 18th century particularly, these too were often japanned or russetted to prevent rust or corrosion in the typically damp climate in much of the Highlands. Teodor, you're right on the usual presence of a pad inside the Hindu basket hilt, typically on the fully dressed examples. Incidentally, 18th century British basket hilts, including Scottish usually seem to have a padded hilt liner as well. As may be expected, these perishable elements usually do not survive, but in rare exceptions. All best regards, Jim