BEATIFUL KAMPILAN HILT

tom hyle · 10th April 2005, 10:03 PM

The surfaces of the panabas seem to be crosshatched draw-filed, with forging dents and scale-pits left in if lower than the desired/defined surface plane, as common. Nice, particularly "tribal"/village quality looking.

nosmo king · 11th April 2005, 12:08 AM

Hello ibeam,I do have a lumad kampilan that I feel relates to this particular thread.It is an old ,really complete example.Loaded with all the "bells and whistles" of a chieftains sword.Even a large tiger bell !!!! The beadwork is just beautiful and the fit of the attachments is really well done.It is wrapped under the beadwork with abaca cloth and many other varieties I am not familiar with.Hope the photos are OK.The lighting was not too swift.I'll do better in the future!!!

tom hyle · 11th April 2005, 12:30 AM

do you find this blade reminiscent of Mandaya bolos? But it is not Mandaya, is it?

nosmo king · 11th April 2005, 01:30 AM

Tom,I'm pretty sure the kamp is Bagobo.You are right on the money with the Mandayan influence between the two styles.It always interests me how neighboring tribes influence eachother,but still retain their their own uniqueness!!!Here are a few pics of a Mandayan bolo in my posession for many years.
BTW,ibeam ID this bolo for me a while back(I used to be "slowcountry" in my former life) I can't remember the exact name for this particular bolo

Andrew · 11th April 2005, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nosmo king

BTW,ibeam ID this bolo for me a while back(I used to be "slowcountry" in my former life)

Your new user name had me rolling!

Welcome back.

nosmo king · 11th April 2005, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Your new user name had me rolling!

Welcome back.

Thanks Andrew,I wanted a name I could see posted in restaurants and all public places!!!

ibeam · 11th April 2005, 10:37 PM

Hello Nismo King,
Thank you for posting pictures of your very nice sword collection. Glad to know you still have that Mandaya bolo.

Federico · 12th April 2005, 12:42 AM

Wow...beautiful Kampilan Carlos. Are my eyes seeing right, and the hilt is made of banati? Ive only seen a couple banati hilted kampilan. Very beautiful. The mansala is interesting as well, nice pattern.

Rick, as far as Ive read, and iffen the similarity between the Moro practice of Anting-Anting and Xtian anting-anitng are truly similar, what constitutes an anting-anting can vary wildly. From heavily inscribed cloth, to simple plain cloth that has been prayed over, to rocks, shells, shards of wood, etc... So, even the plain un-inscribe red mansalas could be antin-anting if there was some significance to the cloth's origin.

I suppose, for all the theorizing, we should also not underestimate the power of it looks nice why not add it.

Rick · 11th April 2005, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nosmo king

Hello ibeam,I do have a lumad kampilan that I feel relates to this particular thread.It is an old ,really complete example.Loaded with all the "bells and whistles" of a chieftains sword.Even a large tiger bell !!!! The beadwork is just beautiful and the fit of the attachments is really well done.It is wrapped under the beadwork with abaca cloth and many other varieties I am not familiar with.Hope the photos are OK.The lighting was not too swift.I'll do better in the future!!!

Fellas , I've got to ask ; what makes this sword a Kampilan ?

nosmo king · 11th April 2005, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Fellas , I've got to ask ; what makes this sword a Kampilan ?

Hi Rick,I just got used to calling any large lumad sword a kampilan for lack of a better word .I think I just like to say "Kampilan".It has a nice ring to it!!

Ian · 12th April 2005, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Fellas , I've got to ask ; what makes this sword a Kampilan ?

Yep Rick. Not a kampilan. More a fat belly bolo, epecially if an analogy is being drawn to the Mandayan bolo which has a fatter belly still.

Rick · 12th April 2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

Yep Rick. Not a kampilan. More a fat belly bolo, epecially if an analogy is being drawn to the Mandayan bolo which has a fatter belly still.

Thank God !
My whole reality set was starting to crumble there for a second .

Terminology is my bete noir in this forum .

11th April 2005, 12:08 AM	#2
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Hello ibeam,I do have a lumad kampilan that I feel relates to this particular thread.It is an old ,really complete example.Loaded with all the "bells and whistles" of a chieftains sword.Even a large tiger bell !!!! The beadwork is just beautiful and the fit of the attachments is really well done.It is wrapped under the beadwork with abaca cloth and many other varieties I am not familiar with.Hope the photos are OK.The lighting was not too swift.I'll do better in the future!!! Attached Images

11th April 2005, 01:30 AM	#4
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Tom,I'm pretty sure the kamp is Bagobo.You are right on the money with the Mandayan influence between the two styles.It always interests me how neighboring tribes influence eachother,but still retain their their own uniqueness!!!Here are a few pics of a Mandayan bolo in my posession for many years. BTW,ibeam ID this bolo for me a while back(I used to be "slowcountry" in my former life) I can't remember the exact name for this particular bolo Attached Images

10th April 2005, 10:03 PM	#1
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	The surfaces of the panabas seem to be crosshatched draw-filed, with forging dents and scale-pits left in if lower than the desired/defined surface plane, as common. Nice, particularly "tribal"/village quality looking.

11th April 2005, 12:30 AM	#3
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	do you find this blade reminiscent of Mandaya bolos? But it is not Mandaya, is it?

11th April 2005, 10:37 PM	#7
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	Hello Nismo King, Thank you for posting pictures of your very nice sword collection. Glad to know you still have that Mandaya bolo.

12th April 2005, 12:42 AM	#8
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	Wow...beautiful Kampilan Carlos. Are my eyes seeing right, and the hilt is made of banati? Ive only seen a couple banati hilted kampilan. Very beautiful. The mansala is interesting as well, nice pattern. Rick, as far as Ive read, and iffen the similarity between the Moro practice of Anting-Anting and Xtian anting-anitng are truly similar, what constitutes an anting-anting can vary wildly. From heavily inscribed cloth, to simple plain cloth that has been prayed over, to rocks, shells, shards of wood, etc... So, even the plain un-inscribe red mansalas could be antin-anting if there was some significance to the cloth's origin. I suppose, for all the theorizing, we should also not underestimate the power of it looks nice why not add it.