Is it possible to have a 6.5 inch keris?

apolaki · 19th October 2008, 04:16 AM

Hello,

I have a Keris that is approximately 6.5 inches in length. I would like to know if a keris of this size is common historically and if so when, and also any info would be great! thanks

drdavid · 19th October 2008, 06:54 AM

Hi apolaki
this link should answer most of your questions about the keris sagen type
http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/kerissajen.html

apolaki · 19th October 2008, 07:10 AM

wow that is so cool, thanks for linking me to this info drdavid!

are there any forumers in here that are fond of this type of keris and can share some more info, the writer of that website seemed to refrain from going too deep into its history, but it was very nice to see it nontheless!

drdavid · 19th October 2008, 08:43 AM

Hi apolaki
that web page is the work of AG Maisey, a regular contributor to the forum. I am sure some others will offer their thoughts on these curious pieces. If you use the search function and try Keris Majapahit you may find some other information about these. They do go by several names
drdavid

A. G. Maisey · 19th October 2008, 11:33 PM

Apolaki, if I had been able to write more, with any confidence of certainty, I would have done so. The plain fact of the matter is that these little keris are surrounded by so much confusion, legend, and misinformation, that it is difficult to be certain about much that relates to them.

apolaki · 20th October 2008, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Apolaki, if I had been able to write more, with any confidence of certainty, I would have done so. The plain fact of the matter is that these little keris are surrounded by so much confusion, legend, and misinformation, that it is difficult to be certain about much that relates to them.

Hi Maisey,

Thanks for responding, i'm very glad you have a page up regarding these types of keris. I wonder if you have some idea about age. in the site you mentioned some time around the colonial era, is there a more earlier frame of reference as well? Hope your doing well!

apolaki

A. G. Maisey · 20th October 2008, 02:17 AM

Apolaki, my name is A.G.Maisey.

My first name is Alan, and you can address me as either Alan, or Mr. Maisey.

Regrettably I cannot accept your address of me as "Maisey". This option is only available at the present time to members of my club, or to those with whom I attended an educational institution.

Regarding age of examples of this type of keris, it is virtually impossible to establish this with any accuracy. One was found under one of the stupas of Candi Borobudur, which could date it to more than 1000 years ago, and they are still made today.

We cannot really use material as an indicator because in some cases old material from an earlier blade may have been used.

Too little is known about style to be at all certain of point of origin in respect of locality or of time.

19th October 2008, 04:16 AM	#1
apolaki Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 160	Is it possible to have a 6.5 inch keris? Hello, I have a Keris that is approximately 6.5 inches in length. I would like to know if a keris of this size is common historically and if so when, and also any info would be great! thanks

19th October 2008, 06:54 AM	#2
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 371	Hi apolaki this link should answer most of your questions about the keris sagen type http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/kerissajen.html

19th October 2008, 07:10 AM	#3
apolaki Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 160	wow that is so cool, thanks for linking me to this info drdavid! are there any forumers in here that are fond of this type of keris and can share some more info, the writer of that website seemed to refrain from going too deep into its history, but it was very nice to see it nontheless!

19th October 2008, 08:43 AM	#4
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 371	Hi apolaki that web page is the work of AG Maisey, a regular contributor to the forum. I am sure some others will offer their thoughts on these curious pieces. If you use the search function and try Keris Majapahit you may find some other information about these. They do go by several names drdavid

19th October 2008, 11:33 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Apolaki, if I had been able to write more, with any confidence of certainty, I would have done so. The plain fact of the matter is that these little keris are surrounded by so much confusion, legend, and misinformation, that it is difficult to be certain about much that relates to them.

20th October 2008, 02:17 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Apolaki, my name is A.G.Maisey. My first name is Alan, and you can address me as either Alan, or Mr. Maisey. Regrettably I cannot accept your address of me as "Maisey". This option is only available at the present time to members of my club, or to those with whom I attended an educational institution. Regarding age of examples of this type of keris, it is virtually impossible to establish this with any accuracy. One was found under one of the stupas of Candi Borobudur, which could date it to more than 1000 years ago, and they are still made today. We cannot really use material as an indicator because in some cases old material from an earlier blade may have been used. Too little is known about style to be at all certain of point of origin in respect of locality or of time.