Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11th September 2008, 06:31 AM   #1
Gonzalo G
Member
 
Gonzalo G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nothern Mexico
Posts: 458
Default

I think the doble headed eagle comes from the northern border of Italy, from the austrian House of the Habsburgs. Just on the other side of the fence of what it was the Republic of Venice. Looks like a woman´s dagger, or a dagger used on concealment.
Regards

Gonzalo
Gonzalo G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th September 2008, 11:27 PM   #2
Atlantia
Member
 
Atlantia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Sharp end
Posts: 2,928
Default

Have a look about half way down this page for a similar piece, with a little crossguard and not anywhere near as elaborate:
Dagger
Atlantia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2008, 02:22 PM   #3
Atlantia
Member
 
Atlantia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Sharp end
Posts: 2,928
Default

Here's another similar one in a book.


It's described as: Peasant knife from southern Europe with bone grip embellished with small brass studs. Overall length 13 inches. Blade 8 inches. Spanish or Italian early 19th century.

They certainly seem to be a southern European style. Yours seems rather special compared to these others.

Regards
Gene
Atlantia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2008, 07:12 PM   #4
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 10,189
Default

Nicely done Gene! That center dagger sure looks like the form, and it would seem to place Southern Europe. I think one of the most difficult identifications is between Spanish and Italian weapons with the Spanish provinces there. Whatever the case they are always beautiful examples!
Jim McDougall is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2008, 08:05 PM   #5
Paul Macdonald
Member
 
Paul Macdonald's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Posts: 48
Default

Great research coming in from all!

This certainly seems to be a specific form of European dagger. I`d like to know if there was a specific name for it. Shall contact Italian friends and ask!

All the best,

Macdonald
Paul Macdonald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th September 2008, 02:37 AM   #6
Atlantia
Member
 
Atlantia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Sharp end
Posts: 2,928
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim McDougall
Nicely done Gene! That center dagger sure looks like the form, and it would seem to place Southern Europe. I think one of the most difficult identifications is between Spanish and Italian weapons with the Spanish provinces there. Whatever the case they are always beautiful examples!

Thanks Jim, Its nice to be of some small help for a change, instead of my endless newbie questions about ethnic stuff! :-)

Regards
Gene

Last edited by Atlantia; 13th September 2008 at 01:16 PM.
Atlantia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th September 2008, 07:04 AM   #7
Gonzalo G
Member
 
Gonzalo G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nothern Mexico
Posts: 458
Default

There are still a conexion among the spanish Habsburgs and the south of Itay. The decorations often survive in spite of the pollitical changes.
Regards

Gonzalo
Gonzalo G is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.