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Old 1st August 2008, 02:08 PM   #1
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thanks for all the info guys!


aside from being a horsed people, i had thought the yakuts where closer in culture to the tribes further east in siberia, like the chukchis or kamchadals or perhaps like some native american tribes, i thought that they might have metal weapons but wasent sure of the extent to which they where used, and thanks for reminding me of the contacts with the mongols.
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Old 15th January 2011, 01:14 AM   #2
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thanks for all the info guys!


aside from being a horsed people, i had thought the yakuts where closer in culture to the tribes further east in siberia, like the chukchis or kamchadals or perhaps like some native american tribes, i thought that they might have metal weapons but wasent sure of the extent to which they where used, and thanks for reminding me of the contacts with the mongols.
yakuts arrived rather recently, even and Evenki are the natives in the area id think the yakuts have much more in common with mongols and tuvans or altay .. originally, although their weapons and some other customs and techniques seem most different so i would be guessing they didn't originate in the steppe but the forest. ( they never used sabers and the like as the other steppe people did for example they had developed a totally original and native sword type.. )

there is some materials in russian and plenty of items in russian museums

if you would like i can try to upload picture of the swords and pole sword and other pole weapons, axes , fighting knives ect..
i have on another computer a good amount,
seems there is several types of long guard-less sword, some have 2 or 3 foot long handles and very long blades.
ill post pics shortly.
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Old 16th January 2011, 11:56 AM   #3
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ausjulius, makes a good point about Chinese and other eastern trade before Russian. These pictures are from " The Asch Collection Gottingen, Siberia and Russian America Culture and Art from the 1700s" Note the Chinese drug pipe. There are some extrats from early letters in German for those who can read it.

This thread brings me back to trans-continental Bering sea trade. Soap stone was traded widely including Siberia, research is easily found. Soap stone was important for pots and lamps where the prodution of pottery would have been not a sensible use of resources. I would like to suggest the same for metals like iron. It has been noted from a similar thread that sparcity of population, resourses to work iron and transport would all have an effect on the supply and demand for iron. But like pottery it was used. It may have had limited appeal {especially cold worked forms} over other material more siuted to the conditions. So iron may well have been in the American arctic for many hundreds of years ie before the Russian and Cook.
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